Yes, these both contain UV brighteners and can essentially glow to deer's vision. The only one that doesn't is Purex Military Grade Free and Clear but that can only be purchased at a military commissary.
So if I wash my everyday clothes in All F & C and wash my hunting clothes with Scent Blocker detergent I'll be ok? Then my hunting clothes will be scent and uv free.
I tell you what I do, and it works great. I wash my hunting clothes in baking soda, air dry, then I take them out in the woods, and rub them in the dirt and leaves. Then I throw some leaves and dirt in a garbage bag, and put my clothes in. Works great, smells like hunting lol. I don't put my clothes on till I'm out of my truck and heading into the woods. So if you live in Grundy TN, and see a man in his underwear at 4:30 am standing by his truck out in the woods,....it's me lol. But don't come up talking to me until I'm dressed. I don't like talking to men with my pants pulled down lol!
JMHO but I would stay away from any of the detergents that say UV brighteners. Sometimes it isn't easy to figure out which do have them so that's why I stick with Scent Killer or Dead Down Wind for detergents.
http://forums.bowhunting.com/bowhunting-talk/63881-scent-smoker.html check this thread out might change your mind on a lot of things........seriously... im trying it next year to try and prove it wrong, but I doubt I will.....derik
if something works and is relatively cheap, why not? im gonna try and if it works, think how much money youll save to buy other stuff....arrows...broadheads...tree stands...blinds..etc that scent free stuff aint cheap year after year..just my 2cents
09-12-2014, 12:58 PM #45 ChuckC's Avatar ChuckC ChuckC is offline Senior Member Die Hard Bowhunter Join Date:Apr 2013Location:S.E. MI to live and S.E. OH to bowhunt!Posts:1,959Post Thanks / Like As far as your clothing I smoke pretty much everything including wool socks, long underwear, hats, gloves, etc.. One decent smoke usually does all that stuff good. The easiest way for me is to use a pop-up blind or at home we actually have an old outhouse that we use as a pool house that I take over in the fall. Hang a rod or some sort of rack inside and drape all the clothing over, fill the smoker and get it going and walk away until the smoke stops coming out. Just have to make sure the nozzle isn't up against anything as it is basically a flame until it's snuffed out to smoke. When I prepare to hunt, say in the morning, I fire up the smoker and then get my hands, hair, face, boot bottoms, equipment, basically anything that hasn't been pre-smoked. Don't forget things like belts, phones, wallets, things that you wear on a daily basis but don't think about too. I also have a couple of towels I smoke up for after showers in the morning and for days when I am quickly out the door I use them to wipe my face, hair and hands in to add a touch of smoke. As far as what to use in the smoker? You can use just about any type of wood in them. Pine cones, needles and pine wood are good for a thick smoke that you can add in addition to wood chips. Keep in mind though pine does create a good amount of creosote in your smoker that you will occasionally have to scrape and burn out to clean. I always use hickory for my start and have added cherry wood, apple wood and some pine items. Here is how I get started....put a decent hand full of hickory chips in the smoker (experience will dictate how much to use in the future), using a propane torch you get the chips burning good while working the bellows, once the flames are coming out of the smoker good I let it burn for just a moment to make sure they are not just burning on the top, to snuff out the flames to get it smoking I usually take a handful of pine needles and crush them down before tossing them in. Once the flames are out and it begins smoking I often toss in a single pine cone. To smoke inside a pop up blind or shed like I use I have a brick on the floor that I set the smoker on. That way I don't burn the grass or the shed down LOL!
The following reviews are from satisfied The Ohio Outdoors members and loyal Scent Smoker users... Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope: Co-Owner The Ohio Outdoors From Scent Smoker Site:Probably one of the biggest skeptics of the Scent Smoker there ever was is Joe Wilson. Joe bought a Scent Smoker to test during the 2007 season. Originally he purchased the Smoker to "Put it to the test". Not convinced by the smoker and tired of the constant chatter on Ohio hunting forums he set about to put this myth to bed.. And he knew the perfect place. He hunted a hollow in Vinton County Ohio that always had plenty of deer but the only consistency with the wind was it swirled.. Despite his efforts with commonly accepted scent control products he would always get busted hunting this setup. He smoked up his clothes, gear, and self then snuck in for a hunt ready to disprove the smoker and put that topic to bed.. Joe had 15 deer all around him for 20 minutes and walked out dumbfounded after filling his tag on a nice doe.. Since that day Joe has been know to say time and time again on the same forums. "I'd rather leave my camo at home before I left my smoker" In 2011 Joe connected on this dandy Ohio buck that gross scored 164 3/8. Since that first doe Joe has became one of the outspoken supporters of Scent Smoker there is.. Matter of fact. I believe in it so much I agreed to build this site for Brock. You guessed it. That's me, the Webmaster. Quote Originally Posted by Jesse: Co-Owner The Ohio Outdoors Like many of the guys on this site, I was a huge skeptic when I was first introduced to the Scent Smoker. At the time, I was a Scent Blocker fanboy and scoffed at anything outside of that narrow minded point of view. The idea of making myself “stink” was hard to grasp, but after hearing enough respected deer hunters speak of its effectiveness, I had to see what all the hype was about. Using a buddy’s smoker, I did my best to make myself smell like bonfire and hit the woods. The plan was to hunt a stand overlooking a small food plot in an oak flat with the complete wrong wind. That evening I sat in amazement as 2 mature does with fawns fed in the plot for over 8 minutes before moving off, all the while inside 40 yards. The lead doe could smell something, but it was never enough to alarm her; something that has become a trend for me over the years. I've been fortunate enough to kill two 6.5 year old bucks with a bow thanks in part to the Scent Smoker. One was killed at 32 steps downwind in stiff breeze. He stood at eye level for over a minute trying to smell me before flicking is tail and taking the last 2 steps I needed to slip one through him. He never knew what hit him. The other pictured below was killed at 8 steps downwind standing on the trail I walked in on. Again, he never had a clue. There is no doubt in my mind that using the smoker is the single most effective tool, tactic, approach, etc. that I have in my arsenal. No ifs, ands or buts about it… It works! Quote Originally Posted by Curran View Post I was a skeptic for a few years before I finally decided to give it a shot. My routine is similar to a lot of bowhunters, in that my clothes, undergarments, packs, harness, etc. are washed regularly in scent free detergent. They're all kept inside of plastic totes. Boot are as well. Everything I take into the woods I try to be as diligent as possible not to contaminate with household smells (pets, anything fragrant, garage odors like gas, etc). I shower before every hunt and try to use scent free soaps & deodorants throughout most of the bowhunting season even when I'm not hunting so that residual odors from other soaps aren't present. I don't wear any hunting clothes while I drive to the places I hunt. Everything remains sealed in their containers until I get to the spot I'm hunting. Then I change clothes, outside, no matter if it's 70 degrees, or 0 degrees, 4:00 AM in the morning or 2:00 PM in the afternoon. my hunting clothes don't see the inside of my truck (even though I wipe it down with scent free wipes, and wash my seat covers in scent free detergent). As I'm getting ready I grab a handful of oak chips, toss them in the smoker, and fire it up with a torch. It's ready to go in minutes and I smoke myself, my layers as they're getting put on, and my gear. Put out the smoker, and hunt. It's just a part of my routine that I allow time for, just like a lot of folks spray down. I sparyed down for years too, and was skeptical about using a smoker, but I can tell you first hand that it flat out works. I've had deer that ended up down wind of me, smelled the smoke, then just relaxed and went about their business. This has happened enough times in the field that I'll have a tough time about taking this out of my routine. You're never, ever, ever going to completely fool a deer's nose unless the wind is in your favor. That's it, but the smoke smell kills odor causing bacteria, prevents new odors from forming, and masks the human scent that you can never, ever, ever completely eliminate. No matter how often you try to hunt the perfect wind, there will be times when it changes direction, swirls, or shifts from what the forecast said. I always try to put every variable I can in my favor, and this is just another one of those things that can help make a difference.
We use Seventh Generation laundry detergent year round. No UV brighteners. Optical Brighteners: Just Say No to the Glow! | Seventh Generation Seventh Generation? Natural Liquid Laundry Deter... : Target
very informative. I knew about the deer seeing the uv brighteners but didn't know about the possibility of making it into lakes and streams. that makes you wonder how much is already in there now.
I swear by the Scent Smoker, bee smoker, brush pile smoke, etc.. I don't get a thing for saying it and I encourage others to give brush pile smoke a try before buying even a bag of hickory chips to smoke your clothes in. I wash my clothes just as I mentioned above but then I do smoke them up and then store them in totes. If you doubt, use some old hunting clothes smoke them up and hunt somewhere you know you have been busted before. Provided you have good camo on and good cover I think you will be surprised.
I will be washing all my stuff later after work with Scent Killer and then "smoking up" as well for tomorrow with some red oak!
Actually that's not correct. Here's a link to the list of military approved detergents. http://www.armystudyguide.com/conte...or-use-with-the-acu-army-combat-uniform.shtml
