Just put my yearly order in for Dead Down Wind spray, body wash, shampoo, and detergent pack and also decided to try Lumenok's this year. Since I was already spending the money, I decided to get a Saunders Hyper Glide since some of you spoke really highly of it. It's on backorder, of course, so once I get it and get the bow rigged up I will let you know how it goes.