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Satibilzer or not?

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  1. Vabowman

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    I have been shooting a stabilizer on every bow for the past 20+ years. With this VRX Mathews I feel like I am fighting some to get the bow to hold up to shoot. I am going to try to shoot today without it. Anyone not shooting a stabilizer? Particularly this bow or any of the Mathews recent bows? Will it make the bow louder? I shoot a 6" flatline btw
     
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    Technically I do, but I would not call it a stabilizer since it’s only a 3”to take the extra vibration out of the bow. Shoots good without a longer one, also settles fine. Matthews lift
     
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    which one do you have?
     
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    That little stabilizer is not doing anything to affect your hold or the issue you're having. It's not nearly large or heavy enough to have any noticeable effect - it's there more for show than anything.

    Fighting to get your pin up on the target is a very common form of target panic.
     
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    Possibly. I know it just feels front heavy
     
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    back bar time ..... ??
     
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    Like Justin said, a 6" bar does not do hardly anything to effect a bow's balance and hold.

    What he said about a low pin may apply, having a pin settle low and feel like you can't lift it up to the bullseye can be a form of target panic. This can be caused by something as simple as your pin covering the dot so you can't see it at all and your brain wants to be able to see it (I've had this, I used to close one eye when shooting. Simple fix, I started shooting with both eyes open), or it can be a more deep rooted problem that will require lots of blank bailing to fix.

    But, it could also just be your setup. For you, perhaps that bow would hold better with the arrow being setup higher in the Berger. Meaning, the d-loop higher up the string. Not something often thought about by us non-pro folks. We just go to a shop, they set the bow up with the arrow being somewhere in the Berger (wherever that particular Tech wants it), and then the rest is tweaked up/down a bit when tuning.
    But think about it. Imagine an extreme scenario. What would happen if the d-loop was only a 1/4 of the way up the string from the bottom cam? The leverage of drawing and holding tension on the string would lever the top cam away from you and the bottom towards you. How hard would that setup feel to put your pin on target? Now imagine the d-loop silly high on the string. The leverage would be the opposite, pulling top cam towards you and bottom cam away.
    So, perhaps for you, on that particular bow, raising the d-loop so the arrow is set higher in the Berger would alter that leverage enough that your bow would stop feeling front heavy.
    Of course, doing this would change several things and probably not something to do in the middle of hunting season. Tune would change, peep distance from d-loop would change and likely peep would need adjusted up a bit, and a new sight-in needed.

    Right now, if removing the front bar seems to help your hold, I would absolutely do it. I doubt you'll notice much difference in shot noise at all, especially on a Mathews.
     
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    I am going to shoot some today without it. Odd thing is, on deer I have a tendency to shoot high. Go figure
     
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    This one
     
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