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Santa Clause .... so you guys and gals promote the "lie"

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  1. tacklebox

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    Love the cake idea... funny
     
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    I don't read many jaw dropping comments on these forums, but this thread has one. Nice one Matt!

    IF I ever end up having spawn of my own, I will have them believe in santa until they figure it out. I don't see the harm in it.
     
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    For the ones that say "they're kids are going to ruin it for the rest of the class", does this make you feel good about yourself? Santa, no matter what the reasoning behind the myth is, has been a tradition for generations. Why would you let your kids ruin it for others? Because their parents are too "well read" or "cool" to participate? If you choose to go the route of not telling them about Santa, at least do the right thing and tell them that it is important to some people and they shouldn't ruin it for them.

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    no, it doesn't make me feel cool, but kids will be kids, and no matter how much I tell my kids to respect the other kids belief in Santa, they are probably going to call them out on it.
     
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    That's what I did. I don't think it left him permanently scarred. It actually brought more pleasure than pain in the long run.
     
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    Unlike hanging out with a Catholic Priest.

    My mother would kill me if she knew I said that. 12 years of catholic school, down the tube.
     
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    Fair enough. That's all I can ask. At least let the kids make up their mind whether they want to spoil it for the others, but if you do your job and teach them to respect others beliefs, then at least you have done your part.

    I personally don't see any harm in letting them believe in something.

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    This same thing can be said about a large majority of Christians.
     
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    Of course I let them believe in Santa. Mainly because I love cookies and if they don't get what they want I can just blame it on the fat man. My son got slick a few years back and asked to borrow my trail cam for Christmas Eve, I had to shut that down and told him to go make some cookies...but not oatmeal raisin, Santa prefers chocolate chip.
     
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    Totally agree. Yes I tell my daughter there Is a Santa. In time she'll figure It out but until then we'll enjoy the memories.

    I don't for sure remember the age but when I figured out there wasn't a Santa my brother who's 3 years younger then me still 100% believed there was. One particular evening that I'll never forget on Christmas Eve my brother sat by the patio door/window looking Into the sky asking me If I've saw Santa and his reindeer yet that night flying In the sky? I said nope but keep looking Jason being you might get lucky. I could've ruined his evening and said there's no such thing. It would've broke the little guys heart. I pounded on people when I was younger who broke my brothers heart and there's NO way I would ever do such a thing. The good old days, damn I miss my younger years as a family.
     
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    Simply unbelievable. *Pun Intended?* :D


    My kids, if/when I have them, will believe in Santa Claus (not Clause:D ), as well as be exposed to the true meaning of the season. You can certainly have both. I did, and I turned out fine. I don't care what you do with your children, but don't label or judge me based on my choices.
     
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    I see it as a harmless childhood tradition that brings a lot of joy and excitement. I would feel pity for any adult that would take enjoyment in knowing that their child intentionally took that joy and innocence away from another child. I also look at it as a completely separate piece of the puzzle of Christmas. For us, Santa was whimsy and had nothing to do with the true meaning of Christmas and our children always knew the religious meaning of the holiday. I would take the same pity on any adult that would take enjoyment in knowing that their child intentionally dismissed another child's religious beliefs, whatever they might be.


    As far as what happened when my boys found out there was no Santa....well, one of them joined a biker gang and ran away with his math teacher. They now live under a bridge near Toledo. The other spends most of his parole at home or in the Betty Ford Clinic and is still pissed about having a Santa tatoo.
     
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    As would I, which is why I've told my kids more than once it is not their place to tell another person what they should or should not believe in. To my knowledge, they have never told another child god was fake, or they are being lied to. However, my kids have been told santa was a lie by more than a few christian kids.

    I also stress the importance of not acting like you are better than other people. If only others did the same. Sigh.
     
  16. Tony

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    I don't think it harms kids and I don't look down on those that do the Santa thing .. it was just a tough thing for me to do. We always told the kids to allow other kids to believe in Santa if they did.

    I guess the same courtesy isn't afforded to us Christians, huh Vito? You do realize that you called most of the members liars .....right? Matt doesn't believe in Jesus and all that do promote a lie ....
     
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    Are you guys trying to imply that Santa doesn't exist? WTH!?
     
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    My comments were not directed at you or anyone in particular. Sounds like you have done your part.
     
  19. Tony

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    Drunk posting....just ignore it ....
     
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    Matt....you DO act like you are better than other people...you hide it under sarcasm and "humor" but most of your post just ridicule.....but I guess it is hard to see the forest thru trees....
     

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