Safety Harnesses

Here is a video on a guy using a rock climbing harness. Try using the 4 point harness while doing these same maneuvers. lol
Alpine Testing - YouTube

 

Muddy for me.

 

You have to be careful hanging in a harness because if you tear the relief stitching in the tree tether you just ruined it.

Having said that I have carefully/slowly hung in a Muddy and it is fine. You are strong proponent for the rock climbing harnesses, but I have tried them and they are not for me. The strap in the front for one thing, it does get in the way when standing and turning to shoot in the direction the strap comes around on. People are different, it's what makes the world go round. I love firm seats on stands and motorcycles, however I don't go around telling people that think opposite that they are wrong LOL.

 

Coop: If you are a dad Happy Fathers day. Since you are on line lets discuss this. If you were knocked out or blacked out causing a fall, How would you keep the leg straps from cutting off the circulation in the femoral artery? How does the strap get in the way when standing and turning to shoot?

 

What % of treestand accidents are caused by knockout or blackout?

Different strokes for different folks.

 

If an older person say with low blood pressure gets dizzy and blacks out, If you fall and get knocked out most people would not want this to end up killing them. With a 4 point harness it can and most times will kill.
According to Hunter Safety System 86% of the accidents in treestands happen while climbing in and out of trees, while you are facing the tree. Its much easier to control yourself with the rope in front where you can grab it and pull yourself back up. Pretty much impossible to grab your rope connected between the shoulders and pull yourself back up.

Most of the responses on here that like their harness, is not about what a harness is supposed to do. It is supposed to save your life. Most are saying how comfortable or how many pockets, but have never tried them for safety. If you actually try a rock climbing harness bow hunting and hang from it, then and only then will you realize how much better they are.

 

I will post my final post here. To each his own, but I think some good points were brought up from both sides. Just have a plan to get down. Maybe try tit four feet off the ground. Happy Father's Day.


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Probably about as many that die from the straps cutting off circulation.

I have hung from a lot of different harnesses between work and military and I can tell you for me none are "comfortable" while hanging there. So if I fall 1 out of say 100 or 1000 or 10000 trips out I'm more concered with those 99 times of comfort than that one time that as long as I don't hit the ground I'm not gonna be like "maybe I'll just hang out a while, take your time getting here."


For the original question posted, I have a hss ultra lite. I like it cause its not bulky and fits under outerwear good to stay out of the way.

 

Thanks you too.

I was always taught the tree strap should be just pulling taunt when sitting, so if you do fall, you do not fall below the stand. So with the strap set properly, as a right handed shooter, if I turn left to shoot the strap wrapped around my body and went up the tree and then interfered with my bow arm getting swung far enough around for the shot (just practicing, not on a real animal). Maybe that is my issue. Maybe with a climbing harness you can keep the strap lower but I still feel if you fall you will be below the stand then.

For the record I meant to say sitting and turning to shoot. Sorry for the confusion.

 

Coop: Now we are getting somewhere. I know how you feel. I was taught the same way. The problem is that according to Hunter safety system 86% of the accidents do not happen while sitting. 86% of the accidents happen while climbing into and out of the tree. If that is all we had to worry about then the 4 point harness would be fine. Even in a sitting position the rope does not get in the way with a rock climber harness as it is attached to the tree on one side or the other just about armpit height and goes under the arm to the stomach area. One can turn left without issue or right. Its hard to fall while sitting. But if it is attached properly you would only fall a couple inches not below the stand.
The biggest problem I see with rock climbing harness, is hunters resistance to change or for that matter to even give it a try.

 

HSS ultralite. I also have one of the ropes with a prusic knot so I'm never disconnected from the tree. Actually saved me once this past winter. Clump of ice got stuck in my boot without me noticing and I slipped on one of the rungs of the ladder. Only fell about 3" but could have been a lot worse.

 

When wearing a rock climbing harness it is similar to the 4 point harness accept it is without the shoulder straps and it connects in the front. After a fall it is like a zip line and is pretty comfortable as the weight is on the waist strap and legs evenly. It is pulling the straps away from the femoral artery.

 

I have the Big Game EZ-on from Menards and it fits me great. My son (fishsoft92) has the HSS ultralite and it seams to ride a little high on my neck for my liking. Either way. Myself or anyone hunting with me doesnt leave the ground without a harness. I keep an extra (the ones that come with a tree stand) in my truck in case someone forgets theirs.

 

Muddy. It's light weight and you hardly know you're wearing it.

 

Guys and gals: Here is a simple challenge for you. With a friend standing by, stand on a 5 gallon bucket hanging off to the side a little bit. Step off the bucket, drop a foot and hang until you stop moving. Now try to pull yourself up to get back up on the bucket. If you can do that you might be able to self rescue. Just hanging there until perfectly still will give you an idea what it feels like. If you can pull your self up one foot, it just might work good. I doubt there are many that can reach behind their head grab a strap and pull them self up one foot.

 

Don't do what thirdhand recommends unless you have a spare harness. Even a one foot drop could tear the relief stitching in the strap and ruin your harness. It also not a real comparison because in a tree you would have more handholds than just the strap.

 

Coop: If a 1' drop ruins a harness, I don't know many who would want to depend on it to save them.

 

Think he was saying it "could" Just like your saying you "might" not be able to pull yourself up by the rope.

 

The only way to truly know is to try it for yourself. I'm not selling harnesses of any type. Just trying to help.

 

HSS all the way. It's alk they know and all they do. They put everything into their products. Costumer service is top notch. Solid company. For the records I was wearing HSS long before they were a sponsor for bhod. I've been wearing their stuff since 2002.

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