Role of age in buck harvest decisions?

Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Hunting' started by tynimiller, May 18, 2017.

?

Does the age of the buck play a factor in your choice to harvest?

Poll closed Jun 17, 2017.
  1. Yes, it is the end all be all to my decision. Busted, small or shed...I'll shoot him if old enough.

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  2. Yes, however I'll always choose a better scoring 3 1/2 or 2 1/2 VS lower scoring 5 1/2.

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
  3. Nope, take what I can get so long as legal...age doesn't really play a role much at all.

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  4. Nope, ultimately inches on the head is all I care about.

    2 vote(s)
    10.0%
  5. Yes, it is the end all be all...but would never shoot a shed or drastically broken off buck.

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  1. tynimiller

    tynimiller Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2011
    Posts:
    12,978
    Likes Received:
    4,677
    Dislikes Received:
    5
    Just doing some informal "research" into a topic...does age play a role in your harvest decision?

    Please choose the best fitting of the five, but than elaborate below in comments if you desire!

    Thank you!
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2017
  2. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Posts:
    31,097
    Likes Received:
    21,185
    Dislikes Received:
    127
    Location:
    Minnesota
    If the deer has more inches of antler than I have ever shot before I am going to shoot it no matter what I estimate it's age to be.
     
  3. remmett70

    remmett70 Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2015
    Posts:
    2,422
    Likes Received:
    396
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Rothschild, WI
    I went with take what I can get as long as legal. Even though none of them really fit.

    Right now its like Walleye fishing, a protected slot. There have only been 5 deer taken over 110" from the land, only one of them would I guess being older than 5. The land has pretty much been any buck is down if seen by the rest hunting. I'm trying to get that changed to let the young bucks with potential time for growth. One problem is we have been a buck only area and they like to eat venison.

    From the pictures of bucks I got last year, there were a few bucks I wanted protected that I put in the slot, they had to be good shaped 4 pointers, 5 points, 6, and a small 8pointer. Which left a handful of spikes, a goofy 3pt and forks, along with the larger 9pointer. We ended up taking 3 spikes, and a youth hunter took a doe.

    What we noticed is that all three of the spikes had hollow areas in their heart walls, which we believe is a defect that caused them to not have bigger racks because the bodies were actually bigger than we expected for spikes. My guess is that it is a genetic defect so the plan for the near future is to take out these smaller bucks each years as freezer fill. while hoping for the big ones.
     
    tynimiller likes this.
  4. CToutdoorsman

    CToutdoorsman Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2014
    Posts:
    1,013
    Likes Received:
    690
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    SE CT
    I'm the same as Sota and that is because of the area I hunt mature bucks are hard to find so what ever is a bigger than what I have already is what I'm going to take.
     
    tynimiller likes this.
  5. uncljohn

    uncljohn Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2013
    Posts:
    937
    Likes Received:
    34
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Land of Pleasant Living
    smarts come with age and not antler size.
     
    Xoutdoors and tynimiller like this.
  6. Josh/OH

    Josh/OH Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2008
    Posts:
    2,728
    Likes Received:
    553
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    Age definitely plays into my decision, but not in such a way as taking pride in killing a 5 year old (or older) buck. What weighs more heavily into my decision is the following:
    Is this buck a 'core-area' local?
    Will he likely be here next year?
    What are the odds his head gear will be significantly larger?
    Simply put, will this season's three or four year old, 135" buck be here next year sporting 160" of bone on his head? For me, these questions are answered through trail cams, scouting and occasional sightings from the stand.
    That said, the dynamics change completely for those of us who primarily or solely hunt public ground. I'm roughly a 90/10 kind of guy (10% being private). Lots of hunters would say I'm gambling by letting those younger bucks walk. But I'm also not one of those guys who has to kill a buck every year. Don't get me wrong -I'd certainly love to! But I don't feel that pressure to produce in order to secure or preserve my reputation as a bowhunter. Combine that with the fact that most of the private land hunters (the 10%) who border my public area are either lousy or very casual hunters, and I'm happy to roll the dice and hold out. It gives me something to look forward to.
     
    FingerMike and tynimiller like this.
  7. fletch920

    fletch920 Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Posts:
    9,192
    Likes Received:
    5,226
    Dislikes Received:
    44
    Location:
    iowa
    Age definitely. But, I did not answer the poll because none of the responses fit me. I would never shoot a shed buck, regardless of age.
     
    tynimiller likes this.
  8. tynimiller

    tynimiller Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2011
    Posts:
    12,978
    Likes Received:
    4,677
    Dislikes Received:
    5
    I should have left that off...
     
  9. Smokey

    Smokey Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2011
    Posts:
    298
    Likes Received:
    13
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Seeley, WI.
    I did not submit to the poll because age is my deciding factor usually. We can have bucks for the books in my area but not every year and sometimes extremely hard to find. Mostly public land I hunt.
    If I see a buck say 5.5 years old that is only 120 then he can be one I am after. Five years of living made him smart, not the antlers on his head. There is genetics and nutrition that are limiting these bucks from growing anything larger so I feel they are a trophy. It is the hunt and the chase that makes it so.
     
    tynimiller likes this.
  10. tynimiller

    tynimiller Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2011
    Posts:
    12,978
    Likes Received:
    4,677
    Dislikes Received:
    5
    You weren't the only person so added an option to poll.
     
  11. Holt

    Holt Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2012
    Posts:
    7,779
    Likes Received:
    20,042
    Dislikes Received:
    19
    Location:
    MD
    Another factor for some people my be the number of tags they get. For example, I get 4 buck tags in my state. I keep one for my number 1 buck in the area and the rest are for any buck I get excited about. I love to hunt, so I don't put alot of rules on the style of hunting I do. If I only had 1 tag each year, then I would only shot a mature buck 4 years old or older. Regardless of antler size. Also I would never shoot a buck that has shed 1 or both sides.
     
  12. boonerville

    boonerville Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2013
    Posts:
    3,524
    Likes Received:
    3,300
    Dislikes Received:
    9
    Location:
    Southern Iowa
    I hunt age, and age alone. I will (and have) let a 150"+ 3 year old walk by me and shoot a 140" 5 year old. Ive killed enough mediocre deer that I don't need to prove anything to myself. I see those big 3 year olds as next years possible booner. That being said, I would never kill a shed buck of any age, and I wouldn't kill an older buck if he was severely broken up. but I will ad that if a buck is severely wounded when he comes by, I will shoot no matter the size. that isn't really a management decision, but an ethical one.
     
    woodsy211, Josh/OH and tynimiller like this.
  13. tynimiller

    tynimiller Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2011
    Posts:
    12,978
    Likes Received:
    4,677
    Dislikes Received:
    5
    Granted now where you are makes it a "touch" easier to do so :lol: !!
     
    boonerville likes this.
  14. boonerville

    boonerville Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2013
    Posts:
    3,524
    Likes Received:
    3,300
    Dislikes Received:
    9
    Location:
    Southern Iowa
    Trudat!
     
  15. tynimiller

    tynimiller Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2011
    Posts:
    12,978
    Likes Received:
    4,677
    Dislikes Received:
    5
    May need to do this poll in early fall...off season doesn't garner as much interest LOL
     
    boonerville likes this.
  16. boonerville

    boonerville Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2013
    Posts:
    3,524
    Likes Received:
    3,300
    Dislikes Received:
    9
    Location:
    Southern Iowa
    What is this off season you speak of?
     
    Josh/OH and tynimiller like this.
  17. tynimiller

    tynimiller Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2011
    Posts:
    12,978
    Likes Received:
    4,677
    Dislikes Received:
    5
    You know there isn't one for me, but even here it seems quite a few experience the phenomenon known as "offseason" lol
     
    boonerville likes this.
  18. tynimiller

    tynimiller Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2011
    Posts:
    12,978
    Likes Received:
    4,677
    Dislikes Received:
    5
    Not sure how I missed this, any pictures of the hearts? You talk to a biologist or CO about this finding? Crazy.
     
  19. remmett70

    remmett70 Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2015
    Posts:
    2,422
    Likes Received:
    396
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Rothschild, WI
    No I didn't think about pictures at the time. If I continue to see the same thing going forward, I will try to get pictures of the defects. All I know is the still taste yummy.
     
    tynimiller likes this.
  20. Xoutdoors

    Xoutdoors Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2014
    Posts:
    577
    Likes Received:
    18
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    MINNESOTA
    To me it's age. I at least hope 4 1/2 or older for bucks. It mostly depends if the area has 3 1/2 yr old bucks every year and 4 1/2+ in some years from trail cams, encounters and harvest in that area. If this year I got pics of a 4 1/2 yr old buck or older. Ill wait for him early season. If I dont happen to see him, I happen to see a good 3 1/2 yr old buck in mid october in bowrange at 15 yards during legal shooting hours. Its decision time. Or if it's the week before gun in my home state of Mn. I'm still hoping 3 1/2 or older, but If I happen to encounter a 2 1/2 yr old buck in bowrange. I dont care anymore lets get it done. Now if it's another area where I went to Wisconsin where there's no 3 1/2 or older bucks in the area, theres just yearling bucks every year and some years for 2 1/2 yr olds in that area. It's mostly any legal buck for me in that area. On all of my ways of hunting, the truth of hunting is always success, whether you harvest a fawn,doe, yearling buck to a record book rack mature buck. It's all the same. There's no right or wrong what everyone does whether your Meat eating to going highstakes to get yourself a giant monster whitetail.
     

Share This Page