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Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by swatrrts, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. Swamp Stalker

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    Honestly I'm not arguing just to argue. And I'm not trying to come off like a know it all or blowhard. I'm just trying to have a civil discussion. I'm trying to be as respectful as possible to everyone's opinions.




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    And I completely agree with the theory of evolution of man being the dominant species and being able to hunt for food, when it is necessary for survival.
    Man has a evolved, technology has evolved. therefore except for a small percentile of people living off grid, there is no need to go in the woods and kill deer to survive, Nor go fishing to survive. So I Think that in today's society it is a privilege, to use our natural right being able to hunt for food.

    Don't let the name of the show "bow hunt or die" fool you. (Lol sorry I couldn't resist).


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    I guess I don't understand that logic. Just because something isn't a necessity doesn't mean it isn't a right. Is freedom of speech a necessity? freedom of religion? bearing arms? We don't have a Bill of Privileges, or a Bill of Necessities, but a Bill of rights. I have a right to choose how I provide meat for myself and family. God gave us the option to do that. You are correct that society has evolved, but I don't really worry about that. Today's society has a lot of really ridiculous notions about lots of things, and consider things like healthcare to be rights and hunting as a privilege. Rights don't evolve. Maybe peoples interpretation of them do.
     
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    I understand what you're saying, and your points of view.






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    Exactly. Perfectly stated




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    My view of a right is something like freedom of speech. It doesn't cost anything and you don't need a license to get it. More of the cost or licensing required that makes me think it is closer to a privilege since it can be taken away from you. That's how I view being able to hunt. I view it as a privilege and respect game laws because I don't ever want that right/privilege taken away from me. Potato/Patato.

    Clearly your examples are rights though.....Not saying you are wrong. Just how I view things. I'm not speaking legal terms.

    Now, let's move onto an important question that has a clear answer. Which broadheads are the best? Mechanical or Fixed? HAHA.[/QUOTE]

    I'll try this next weekend and bet I don't get in trouble lol


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    Lol! Friendly discussion


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    to the guys comparing driving to hunting licenses, you should read some of the definitions that are in U.S.C. title 18
    yes driving is a privilege however traveling in an automobile is a right.
    by thier own definition, driving is an act of commerce, meaning one has to be getting paid for actually "driving "
     
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    I am privileged to have the right to hunt.

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    This has become pretty funny. Considering humans were just another prey animal for real top level predators for about 100,000 years, and its only been about 10,000 years that humans developed tools and organizational skills to allow them to compete with things like saber-toothed tigers.
     
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    privilege
     
  13. Skywalker

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    Then whom is granting this privilege?
     
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    Our lovely government entities.
     
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    by government I feel its my right. by god its a privilege.
     
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    Thank about that for a minute. This is one of the problems with our society today. Ours is a representative government, meaning we elect the people to manage our country. They have provided a set up norms that we have accepted as laws over the years. Was hunting a right or a privilege for Native Americans, or for the Neanderthal? Clearly we would all say it was a right for them. So why would it be any different for us? I think it's a dangerous slop when the citizens stop being independently thinking citizen and become subjects that are controlled by the government. We are getting dangerously close to this.
     
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    Another interesting angle could be that it is our intelligence as humans allowed us to realize that we might be better off, giving up hunting and fishing as a right, in order to protect our ability to continue to hunt and fish in the future. We have a history of showing we will not necessarily do what is right unless we are "forced". Making hunting a privilege is probably why we still have the ability to go today.
     
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    I can appreciate the reasoning behind it being a privilege. Law enforcement will always tell you it's a privilege, because they can "take" it away from you. But only so long as you decide to go along with the rules of society and citizenship. In a matter of survival, quite frankly, it's a right.
     
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    The more rights you are willing to give away, the more rights you will lose. I try not to confuse basic rights as humans with any type of laws implemented by any government. As humans, we all have basic rights regardless of which of the 196 countries we are governed by. The basic right of life requires the ability to provide food for ourselves, regardless of the privilege's we are afford by living in a civilized society. There are many subsistence hunters that live outside of the normal regulations in this country and they are well within their rights to do so.
     
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    it is a right. the minute you start thinking it is a privilege you are giving up your rights. let it be known that it is a right and fight to keep it that way. don't give in to the libitard way of thinking.
     
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