ive been looking in to getting a different rest specifically NAP apache. in the reviews that i have read people talk about how their accuracy has improved with different rests. is this true and if so what type of rest would you recommend (looking at a drop away like the apache)?
I went from a Whisker Bisquit to a Ripcord code red, groups were consitantly smaller, and NO vane damage.
I am not sold on them improving accuracy. Form is the number one improvement you can make. I do think they hide flaws in tuning ability and due to that, they seem more accurate. I use to think they were not to very long ago actually, until I learned more about how to tune a bow.
They absolutely do. Less contact= Less contact! The more forgiving a setup is the more accurate it will be. FWIW, you proved yourself wrong in your own post.
X100 Less contact. a biscut also wears out over time which will change your arrows resting point. now with that out of the way IMO you cant go wroung with the apache or the QAD ultra hdx rest. if you go with the apache save yourself the head ache and get the new carbon one it has a cut in the side instead of the top for inserting the arrow into the rest.
With a well tuned bow and an experienced shooter, a WB will shoot just as well as any drop away on the market. That being said, it wouldn't be unheard of for someone to switch to a drop away and see an improvement in their accuracy.
I'm going to disagree... If that were true... you would see target shooters using Drop aways... and you just don't see that... You see Spring steel rests, that guide the arrow throughout the entire shot. But we may be on two different pages... I'm saying more contact with the "Shaft" is Good... "Fletching" contact... Bad.
Easy.. what if a drop away fails? A spring steel rest has very little if any contact.. They are spring steel, meaning they flex on the shot, no guidance. Torque a bow with a shoot through style rest and then with a drop away. You will see a difference.
Limbdrivers Advertise longer contact with the shaft over other drop aways.... If what your saying is true, why do they advertise otherwise.... why wouldn't you want the fastest dropping arrow rest on the market? And a Spring Steel rest doesn't "flex" out of the way... It flexes with the arrow throughout the shot. I'm trying to find the video of one in slow motion... I believe it was Dave Cousins...
A dropaway has to stay up long enough to allow the arrow to store energy potential. If a rest dropped the moment the string was released then the arrow would shoot at a downward angle. Which is why a properly tuned drop away should come to the up position at the final 2" of the draw cycle. Any contact past what is needed is only going to show the results of torque exponentially. To expand on your question, any rest can be made to stay up as long as a limb driven rest, it's all about timing.
Backcountry, you and I have disagreed on this subject in the past so obviously we wont change each others opinion. But I respectfully disagree.STILL LOL A torqued shot is when you need the extra guidance. I THINK you can agree that a rest that has contact longer IS easier to tune. I THINK we both agree that fletching contact is less forgiving even on the WB. Most but not all professional tuners and archers agree with my viewpoint but you have a few in your corner as well. What I do know is if I torque the grip is that I don't want the front of the shaft having no guidance while the arrow is still on the string. Good shooting . Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
Here's one... The spring still is at 00:50 into the video [video=youtube_share;NldCp7Dt2ck]http://youtu.be/NldCp7Dt2ck[/video]
So in short, imo a rest doesn't improve accuracy as much as it can make a setup more forgiving to the shooter which improved perceived accuracy. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
Was waiting on you I'll try to explain this as best I can (sounds good in my head, LOL) I do agree that a rest with a longer contact is easier to tune.... to poor form. You can make a fixed style rest shoot any direction, basically forcing the arrow the fly in any certain direction to cover up a bad form. It may not fly pretty, but it will get there.. Obviously this is not inducive(sp?) to good broadhead flight. My thoughts, the less an arrow relies on a rest to make it fly straight the better. A drop away can still certainly show any torque issues, however, I feel it is "dumbed" down. A properly tuned rest will drop before a bad torque can affect an arrow too much, to an extent. Adding a rest, Ripcord, with a braking system will further enhance the no contact issue by eliminating bounce back. I do agree that a fletching contact will be more apparent and dramatic on a drop away, simply because a whisker biscuit forces an arrow to fly through a certain direction with little to no deflection. I'm not bagging on whisker biscuits, they are a great rest for some. All things being equal, a drop away will always shoot more efficient, however. I have never had a serious issue tuning a drop away, even a shoot through. I hate tuning whisker biscuits.
I could somewhat jive with this, lol. I am confident in saying that I can, based on my shooting form, make a stationary rest shoot, and shoot good. But I know I can get better consistency from my dropaway. When I'm several miles in, winded, and 20 yards from a bull I want all the forgiveness I can get. My set up is tailored just for this.
this is all good stuff. i havent had much of a problem with accuracy and my set up it tuned. so does that mean i really wont see a difference if i change rests?
Go watch the video on the rest rocket at www.restrocket.com, Kenny Parson has came up with this little device that delays the drop away rest, it keeps em up longer and still maintains full fletching clearance, he shows it in slow motion and you can see the arrow leaves the bow a lot straighter. just my 2 cents Gersty
Backcountry I also hate tuning the WB. Lol. Like I have said many times in the past. I want my rest in contact as long as possible before dropping away for fletch clearance. Imo, best of both worlds. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
