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Remembering "That's why I hate white people."

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  1. grnhd

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    How racist could this guy be really....I mean he owned a pro basketball team:lol:
     
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    I fully understand image but do you you really believe his comments were going to effect the NBA?

    He doesn't represent the leagues views and to be quite frank, people don't care that much to boycot a product they want and like.

    I swear I think people want to be "offended" now days.

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    This whole subject got me to thinking. If a ref hears a black man on the court use the N word, will he be banned for life? I feel he should be, if everything needs to be fair. If the NBA really wants to make a stand against racism then don't stop at the old man.
     
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    Listening to lawyers on this, they seem to think sterling has a case.



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    This double standard is getting old. And I dont mean just black/white. Dont mean race at all really. Any and all of them. So often through recent history there was/is groups calling for equality, and I agree we all deserve it. But, how come because those groups were discriminated against at one point, they earn a double standard? Thats not equality.

    The black/white example is known well so wont get into it. But what about women rights? I agree, if a women can do a job by its standards, they should get paid the same and get the same credit. But Im sure Im not the only one who works with women who get paid the same as me, who get to stand and watch me and other men work because they physically can not keep up with the labor. Its nothing against them at all, great girls, but they get away with it because companies are afraid to not be "equal". I also just read a month ago or something, about a women who failed the Marine infantry test, and was blaming the Marines for not getting extra training since she was a female. Men failed that test next to her, they blamed nothing but themselves (as far as we know anyway, because they didnt make a fuss about it). Not saying I dont think they should be there, but it needs to stay equal and bothers me shes trying to use the double standard.

    How about gays. Lets not debate weather they deserve the same as straight people, not the thread for it. But now, if you speak against them in the wrong place, it could cost you big time. Ask Phil Robertson (just 1 example). But, can a famous gay person call him a dumb redneck and get away with it? Would they have the same reaction he had with his comments? Doubt it.

    Again, Im all for equality. Maybe Im reading into things like this wrong, just my opinions and observations. Equality needs to go both ways for it to work. Sounds funny to say sometimes, but its tough being a straight white male haha.
     
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    I agree, the N word is either offensive or it isn't. It cant be cool for a black guy to say and offensive for a cracker to say. That's right, I just dropped the C word.:lol:
     
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    This is what I am reading too. If he wants to fight (the sale, not the ban) he will likely win.
     
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    But saying stupid stuff isn't a criminal act nor necessarily a breach of the NBA's rules. Banning him because the league didn't like what he said will not stand up in court. All the boycotts in the world won't settle the case legally AND in and of itself... may cross the line into illegal activity by the boycotters. Wow this could get really weird before it is over.
     
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    Just this...
     
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    Well if anyone knows their way around a courtroom it's Sterling...but he's normally on the other side of it. LOL
     
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    The NBA probably knows Sterling has a case but they did what they did because of politics. Even if Sterling wins a lawsuit, the NBA will still win in the court of public opinion so they did what they had to do.



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    Sterling is better off selling the team. It's a sinking ship if he finds a way to hold onto it...will be interesting to see what happens
     
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    His comments were made in private and then were made public. His comments are now public. It's as simple as that.
     
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    It's not as simple as that. People should have a reasonable expectation of privacy. If he doesn't treat people differently under the law, he should be able to think and feel however and whatever he wants. Does it make it right? No. But it is his right.
     
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    So all of this has me wondering... what kind of neighborhood would an average sports star live in? Is there a degree of racism toward minorities by the minority athletes that are pointing fingers at men like Sterling? Do guys like Magic and Charles go eat at the local Longhorn? Why or why not?

    If real change is going to occur, do we not need to clarify all the racism issues instead of knee-jerking at anecdotal examples?
     
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    Just a guess, but I doubt he knew he was being recorded.

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    No way!!! Its like I never stated that!!! Thanks for the useless comment!
     
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    He knew he was from what I read. If he weren't, whoever recorded him wouldve been breaking federal wiretapping laws since I believe it was in his own own, or atleast a private residence.
     
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    if he knew he was being recorded, then he's dumb...so far the only things i've read or watched have shown that the girl said he knew...i haven't come across anything that says he admitted or has shown irrefutable evidence that he knew he was being recorded.

    dah well...to me, all this racism stuff is pretty worthless.

    i'm an immigrant/minority type, and when i went to The Citadel, my eyes were opened. i excelled for only one reason: the ensured that the effort i put it translated into the excellent results i wanted. my skin color or country of origin weren't the basis for how well i did on my tests, papers, or anything else. that was liberating. i didn't have to live up to any stereotype. i could be American. the best part about that was, i didn't care what other people thought or felt about me. whether people were racist towards me, it didn't matter. i still made high marks in all that i wanted.

    the way to change peoples' minds about this subject isn't through ridicule or marginalizing them. it's by addressing the issue by saying, regardless of skin color, "I'm proud to be an American. I'll let my work ethic and the excellent results it produces speak for itself. I don't want or expect any special treatment because of the color of my skin or anything like that. Judge me on the content of my character and how well I do my job."

    I believe the more people we have focusing on that and focusing less on the errant (probably private words) of a rich man, the better off we'll be.
     

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