Remember lethalconnection (HNI's contest poacher)

Hey, thats Super Chicken!!!!

 

Imagine the wings on that sucker :d

 

Well I definitely sense some anymosity between some of you fellas, but the topic is actually a pretty good one and thought provoking, to me anyway. Those 3 posters have made some good points that many seem to overlook because they have already made up their minds on what they percieve as the topic, and there is noting wrong with making up your mind and having a strong opinion on something. Sometimes though strong opinions prevent a person from seeing a biggr picture.

Maybe in this particular incident with this young man the way it all went down was the only way. Had he not got caught(turned in) he would likely have continued his learned behavior along with his father and uncle and probably the rest of his family and friends. So perhaps in this situation with no real form of guidance in his life the law had to be the guidance.

But I can tell you this there are many people on these forums who will more than likely face a situation in their lives where the young person who screwed up is your own, and unlike lethalconnection, your kid had great guidance and a good upbringing but there you will be. Hopefully you will be the one that identifiess the mistakes and can get the young one back on track or if not you perhaps a family friend, neighbor, relative, or though dumb luck the kid will mature on his own without getting caught in his wrongdoing(whatever that may be). And in most of our lives that will probably be the case, most of us won't have to worry about the law being the ones to provide guidance because we will somehow get that oppurtunity first. But if you are the small percentage who doesn't get that option and your 18-19 yr old winds up in trouble make sure you post up how they are the lowest of the low and got what was coming to them and how you are glad somebody turned them in and so on and so on. That way we can all "Enjoy" seeing justice served and remember exactly how much more righteous we are than others. Way bigger topic that a kid poaching a deer imo.

 

I agree 100%. I don't really have a dog in this fight, as I do not play in the contests.

I am not condoning what was done, poaching is illegal. My feelings are, if you do it and get caught, your problem. I am not saying that turning him in (who ever did it) was wrong, but I am also not saying it was right.

I remember another post on HNI where a guy shot a coon out of season in Illinois (http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=3116135&mpage=1&key=coon) and posted pictures of said coon on HNI. I knew coon season was not in, but did not call the law on him. I simply asked how smart it was to post the pictures of a poached coon on the internet. The post was edited and the picture and comments about the coon were removed.

For all those who draw the hard line in the dirt, who called the Illinois DNR on this person? Why was the Illinois DNR not called? Because the person has many friends on HNI? Because it did not effect the deer contest? Because it was a coon and not a deer?

I am just asking the questions and pointing out the hypocrisy.

Am I saying I would have turned the other cheek if LC would have poached this deer on my property? No, I am sure I would have. Would I have turned him in if I knew he poached this deer on some other property, other State, other Country? No, I would not have, just as I did not turn the guy in for poaching a coon.

Does this mean I have no ethics when it comes to hunting? I guess that is for all of you to decide. But when you decide, remember that poached coon post had two pages of replies, not just mine

 

Maybe it is just me, but this topic does nothing for me. It gets me as excited as listening to President Obama and his buddy's bashing AIG......

 

Personally its like a wreck for me...I can't look away.

 

You are an expert on the subject

 

I was kinda wondering the same thing, I dont see Rob on HNI talking the way he is talking on here.

 

That is your entire pulpit and it's laughable.

Lest we need reminded of the adults that were convicted of game violations perhaps, just perhaps teaching a life long lesson to many.

It's pretty simple, the "apology" letter is current, the issue is current. Several wanted to know, I received the information current, I relayed the information current, nothing was dredged up.

It was a pretty simple thread until the likes of the three amigos, (GMMAT, quiksilver and asstalman) decided to make it personal. A simple way to go or, I didn't agree with it it but hopefully he learned his lesson or even more simple, hit the back button. But no, GMMAT, quiksilver and asstalman had to do what they do best. Kudos, you 3 must be so proud. You made yet another historical lengthy thread and I think a new BHC record.

 

What way is that? Laughing at the bashing? It's not necessary there, it's civil and I wonder why?

 

"You got to fight for your right to parrrrrrty" Beastie Boys

It's as relevant as your quote.

It's truly sad what we have become, we stick are heads in the sand and ignore what is going on around us. Anyone remember when doing the right thing was not only expected to be done, but was done. Now you're a "narc" if it happens. Yes I am that guy in he neighborhood who calls the cops when I see people speeding down the street, I chase mustard bandits also, I also stopped a two kids at gun point who were riding snow machines on our land and made them call their parents to come get them and their sleds. Why should I care anymore, it's way easier to ignore the issues of the world, like lending money to people who cannot pay it back, who cares it will not affect you.

I know, I should stick my head in the sand and just focus on me, god forbid we celebrate folks like the hunter who decided poaching deer was wrong and he called the DNR. You guys are right he should have stuck his head in the sand. If it's not affecting him why should I care?

Rob if you ever run a constest again, don't ever question a bow kill deer with it's eye blown off, how dare you try to run a contest that is fair and has integrity, what a prick. How dare you give anybody the right to tell the truth or ask the members of the contest what they think, what in the world is wrong with you. Next thing you will be pro staffing for ASAT.

 

I know Germ, I am all that is wrong with the world. Just ask these amigos.

Good post, let's just look the other way from now on.

Jeff, petty, simply petty. There are several on this thread that stated they disagree with me. I'm fine with that. They don't bash, name call and degrade. You and I have had countless disagreements, online and in person, it never resulted in the pettiness some posters bring to each and every thread that doesn't agree with them. You see me as the problem, look in the mirror. I hope you like what you see looking back.

 

Im just speechless...

 

Yes I did and I also stated I was wrong in doing so. Last year I called the only act of poaching I saw. In years before I witness poaching and did nothing, and I ashamed of my lack of action.

I don't know who called, but he has my respect.

I was 100% wrong.

 

That's why there IS a letter of the LAW, and people put in place to assure it is indeed adhered to. People (hunters) don't decide for themselves what is right or wrong...there is a whole book that people are supposed to read, know and follow outlining everything for them.

 

I'm not embarrassed so I don't need you of all people to be that for me.

Answer me this one question Jeff,

If the majority of people agree with me and that is the case (it was then, it is now), (hell and I wasn't the one that turned them in) and you disagree with me, why are YOU right and I'm wrong? I disagree with you and YOUR right? I'm not the one off on a tangent. I made simple post and many appreciate it but to you, they are ALL wrong and YOU are right? You, asstalman and quik are the most outspoken against me, I have the majority in favor or support there of and you 3 are right? Is that where your aligning yourself?

Explain that to me honestly and I'll be satisfied that YOU are right.



There are many of us that are very amused by this.

 

Just pointing out the obvious here but please don't play innocent victim Rob. Noone was allowed to say they disagreed with out you jumping down their throats. Re-read the whole thread and tell me again who was attacking who, I'll help. This was your first response to Fran after he stated his opinion:

Followed by:

And then:

And the irony of this one is blinding:

Any personal feelings you want to "air out" because they are pretty visible anyway?


You believe the below quote I'm sure but to a neutral party you seem to have been chomping at the bit to start with the "digs" as seen above and throughout the thread?

What is perfectly clear is there was no bashing initially, differing opinions on a topic? Sure. But taking that and running with it and saying these guys that disagree are just out to get me is downright silly. Re read the entire thread and tell me you weren't itching for a fight. It's obvious and in black and white, we get it you have personal issues with these three guys which has exactly zero to do with the bulk of the topic.

Name calling is alway a nice touch:

Yeah they came and all 3 just started bashing you, re-read!

I don't know what the deal is with you and the notorious "3" but it coming across quite petty and childish and the innocent victim act is even worse.

Might ruffle some feathers but needed to be said. Friends should be able to talk openly right? Even if we disagree.




Anyone read kickin bucks'

 

NOPE.... you aren't dragging me into this brawl. LOL