Wicked and you know it! And your comfortable with it. Even when wearing pink. YOU DA MAN Whose to say what the "world" was when the bible was written. That was before Al Gore created the internet.(wink). For all we know, the "world" to them was primarily the Mesopotamia. Todays Middle East. I too believe that God created everything, but I dont necessarily have to subscribe to a certain timeline. Pretty hard to look at a new born child and imagine that there is not some kind of divine hand at work.
you bet I would!!!! Would I be what YOU would consider evil or bad ... nope ... but it is not about you .... I live my life in a way that pleases my Savior according to HIS book (most of the time). SO if I didn't believe in God, I would do whatever felt right in my own eyes ... like I did before I put my eternity in HIS hands ... make sense? Bottom line for ME on this .... you guys that don't believe in God the way the BIBLE describes Him .... have created a God that makes sense in your own minds ..... when it is all said and done, we will know...or know nothing ... BTW ... feel free to PM me if you REALLY want to discuss this ... I will only answer to this thread in a PM ONE DAY, WE WILL ALL KNOW and there wont be any questions
This is the crux of the issue, if I interpret what I read has a different meaning then someone else. IE the nut jobs standing on a corner holding up signs.
PT...you can choose to address this or not. But, I'd like to know why this would necessarily be different. Is your sense of "right" and God's that much different? Or, is it any different? In what way(s)? I'm not judging anything you say (and won't). I'm just curious about this. Anyone else that feels they'd live differently, I'm similarly curious.
I would act different. Like PT said, it's not like I would be an ass (or rather more of an ass), or purposefully do evil, but I wouldn't be as good or loving as a person. Jesus challenges me every day. Take the 10 Commandments. Hard, but not impossible to live by. But Jesus breaks it down so much further. Do not commit adultery. Ok, I wouldn't sleep with some one's wife or cheat on mine, but Jesus says that if I even look at a woman with lust, I have committed it in my heart... honestly, that's tuff stuff. Jesus will take you where you are, no matter how good or bad you are, but then He calls you to be better. Humans tend to be lazy creatures. Sure we can work hard, but if there is no reason to work harder, we won't. Jesus is my reason to work harder. He calls me to be better than I am, He certainly doesn't demand it, but He calls us all to be better.
No rub with me. Just an assumption based off of someone else's assumption. At least in real science, we blow away some assumptions and start a new one all the time. Somebody else publishes another assumption, and on and on it goes. We keep each other in check with all our bickering and debating. But our purpose is the dead presidents. Its funny how millions of dollars keeps people honest in technology and physics. It either works and you get the flow, and you follow the contract or it doesn't. Thats my science point of view. From a biblical point of view, I have no issue with an old earth, new earth. partially developed earth. See, God made time. Time does not dictate God, and vise versa. A day in human world is the Earth rotating. A year with a 365 day trip around the big wheel in the sky. For you to have a day, year, or time, you would have to have the sun. Who knows when that happened, or when God spun it in motion. So if we think of it God created time (sun, rotation, etc), it seems extremely credible that our earth could be well "timeless". Because God made time. Maybe thats my good ole boy thinking. So for these guys just to go out and say something is this old or that old. They can't repeat the experiment. If we were not able to repeat a soliton propagation experiment several thousands times, and based all of our thoughts off the original assumption, you would not be typing on the internet right now. Because rarely is our original assumption correctl. Because I guarantee you the data flying from this webpage is flying thru a piece of equipment I and dozens others helped develop called DWDM.
Sometimes it feels so good to do wrong. Sad to say. Humans are born wanting to do wrong. Wanting to be selfish. Wanting to take the toy that the other boy has. Doing wrong is so natural, we don't have to teach a 3 year old to lie. Or disobey. He's a natural
Well according to the Bible (If you believe it), 1 day with the Lord is as a thousand years with man. I dare to say, there is not a rock solid bit of proof from scientists that can refute what the Bible says, as being true. If you can find one time that science has tried to disprove the Bible, I can find 50 where they could not do it.
Exactly. Until one can answer how the universe appeared and then explain what happened before that. They are just guessing and think way too much of themselve.
Most definately. A man without hope, except for success in this life, is certainly in a miserable soul. Before God found me, I was on my way to death in short order. I went from simple cursing, smoking, dipping, to drugs and alcohol in the seventh grade. Then it turned to harder drugs, more drinking, stealing and lying every day of my life. If you can think of most anything evil, I was involved. In 1989, Jesus found me almost OD'd on muscle relaxers and Tequila in the back seat of my brothers car, half frozen to death. I knew there had to be more to life. A short search later, and a man, whom I to this day call a messenger of God, told me the way. I can honestly say, yes, I still sin (as I define it), but to say I miss that lifestyle, of living without hope... I do not. So yes, if I did not know a God existed, I would definately live, or die, differently.
How can something so perfect as GOD, create something so naturally evil as man according to you? It is illogical. Or why would God choose to create something so naturally and instinctively evil and selfish, and then ask that same thing to try and "behave" so to speak? It just seems weird and random.
God did not originally create man as evil. Man/Woman was deceived by an outcast of Heaven, and was punished. To answer the second question, (or at least my answer, BC's may be different) God has provided a way for us to escape the temptations of sin, and also a way to be forgiven. It is up to us what we choose to do.
So God is still "punishing" man today based on what two humans did somewhere between seven days ago and 15 billion years ago>? So we are being punished today by God because of something we had nothing to do with at all?
That is where "our" choice comes in Brett. We can choose to follow God and His plan, without the "punishment", or we can do everything our way, and reap what we sow. God is not looking for robots without a will of their own. He is giving His creation a chance to be what He designed it to be...His.
