Reality vs "real" reality

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  1. Vabowman

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    Man that would be awesome to see all those animals in one area of the country. I get the edit stuff and the cutting room floor tape. they have to make a show worth watching, and i think they do.. But my point was what is reality for some is only fantasy for others..does everyone that goes to out of state outfitters enjoy similar results? do they see tons of deer and several good bucks the entire time they are there? is it pretty common place? Im saying that "tough hunting" to me is all relative. so what we see on these shows is obviously edited but when a hunter says "this has been tough, we have seen buck after buck and doe after doe in two sits" and then kills a good buck, to me wouldn't be considered tough in my woods.
     
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    Take a quartering to shot because you need to have a kill on camera.
     
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    I've updated the quote to be more applicable to a wider audience. Not everyone has a TV show - but they sure do have social media accounts and love getting those "likes" on their trophy photos.
     
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    yes that is certainly happening.. I also think that's why Im seeing more and more long distance shots on tv as well..have to get the kill.. nobody wants to see em get away..those shots often lead to poor shots and having to wait to track.
     
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    Agreed 100%.

    But back to the original point of the post - everyone's reality is different. In my reality I go home to a modest middle-class house full of screaming children and worry about paying insurance, medical bills and replacing my furnace that sounds like it's going to blow up at any time. Others go home to their million-dollar houses, drink expensive scotch and complain that the heated floors in their bathroom just aren't keeping their feet warm enough. While others have no home at all and wonder where their next meal is coming from. It's all relative I suppose.

    When it comes to hunting, much of what you see on TV (or the web), isn't a representative of majority of people. And I'm okay with that. I don't always want to see people like me. Sometimes I want to see people that have it better than me - mostly so I can complain about them. But maybe because I also want to be them.
     
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    yep all relative.. I mean if you hunt public land or an area with low deer numbers you shouldn't expect to have the same outcome as a guy hunting primo private land in IA..
     
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    If they only knew that the majority of hunters that actually have ethics want to puke when they see that type of content. I think the problem is it’s probably 50/50 ratio hunters with/without ethics. So these shows still appeal to a broad audience.
     
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    they know. but here is the deal. They want to hunt for a living..most people can't. very few make a living hunting. to make it, you have to sell products that are willing to endorse you.. the funny thing is, somewhere in the US a native American is lmao his off because his people did it to survive. that is the ultimate "making a living".. modern bowhunters, myself included, need to have a reality check and remember this is a hobbie..nothing more.. we have to work for a living. for us, it's not do or die. it's a passion yes, it's a lifestyle yes, it's who we are, but it ain't survival.
     
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    Unfortunately, our club rules say no! It's really pretty sweet. we have about 35 members. only about 6-8 bowhunt. but, there is a lot of land that is pretty much not bow huntable... too thick and no trees to get in. basically, 3-5 year old cut overs. it's not as easy as one would think. with that said, as club we kill about 160 deer a year. Of course most of those are killed in front hounds.. I live deer dog hunting country. it's southern thing. But I have killed some deer bowhunting during bow season, and I have killed a couple of respectable bucks and seen a few P&Y as well. My annual payment is $1500 a year. a little above average for here but worth it.
     
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    Hahaha i was totally kidding. But rock on that sounds like a sweet gig and a lot of venison to eat
     
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    We hunt public here. There’s just so much of it and it holds a lot of good game if you can draw a tag.

    I have access to lots of private and have been invited to a very nice, large private set of ranches. Thousands of acres. Conditions were that I hunt coyotes around the property owners home primarily. To help prevent them from picking off his wife’s prize hens.

    I gave up the opportunity because one of the other 4 guys who has permission to hunt the property, who wasn’t helping out the owner very much, got very nasty once he found out I got an invite to hunt there. So I just gave up on that after I figured out he wasn’t going to be friendly or play well with others. I don’t do drama like that.

    Lots of family members and close family friends that own private but nobody hunts it. Or they lease it out or hold guided hunts. One of them has a large ranch with exotic game. Not gunna judge on that, but too rich for me!
     
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    I don't put any stock in how realistic hunting shows are compared to where and how I hunt. That's like watching porn and then being disappointed that you walked out of the library without getting laid...
     
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    This doesn't fit me at all. I'm not saying you're wrong because the hunt is different for all of us. For me that just doesn't work.

    I've had a few other hunters in my club tell me that I am very "goal oriented" when it comes to hunting. I suppose that's true.

    I've heard a lot of folks talk about going on a hunting trip, seeing deer, having a great time and although they came home empty handed they considered it a successful hunt.

    I wouldn't.

    My objective when I head out on a huntomg trip is to kill a deer. I may have the best time of my life, see things I've never seen before, make new friends and strengthen the friendships I already have, but if I come home empty handed the hunt itself was unsuccessful to me.

    It might have been a great trip but MY primary objective wasn't met.

    Again, that's just me.
     
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    Dude is an idiot for saying that plain and simple...OR he is the softest hunter imaginable...OR he just lied for the "video".

    One, two or all three apply in this case.
     
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    I can assume, that for that place it was a difficult hunt...but again, it's all relative. to me a tough hunt is:
    1. Walking a ton of acres to find deer
    2. Walking in to that spot with tree stand and bow to hunt it.
    3. Sitting there for hours in hopes of seeing a deer.
    4. Then at prime time...nothing shows up..just the crickets.
    5. repeat steps 1-4 about 3 times before you actually do see one
    6. finally on the 3rd try you see a deer
    7. Except it wasn't in range
    8. Repeat the steps 1-6
    9. But this time , you get it all right and you kill a nice fat doe. And the rush lasts for days and days afterwards.. you feel sadness, relief, and a sense of accomplishment..
    10. Start back at step 1.
     
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    People still go to the library?
     
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    To get laid duh!
     
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    If someone sees 10x bucks as me on their land..dont care

    If they kill bucks much bigger than me...dont care

    If they see deer every hunt and I dont...dont care

    I put in hundreds of scouting hours each year on average hunting grounds that hold some decent bucks here and there. I want to kill a buck there. Where I spent tons of time and effort. Makes it all worthwhile to me.

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    You been to FT Pickett yet?
     

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