That would exclude Uncle Ted and Spook. Ted was genius enough to film 9 violations on a California blacktail hunt on air! The CFG sat on the couch and wrote the tickets. I don't watch the hunting shows anymore because it's 13 minutes of hawking mostly useless products selling hope via hype. Most tv celebs are broke and they all have to get the kill shot and justify the buck. They don't disclose a high fence hunt is being filmed. many add a magical 20-30 inches onto the buck. The edit button skews truth from fiction. These shows have exponentially elevated "horn porn" to new levels and have taken the fun out of hunting for many. They make it seem that unless You can dump a 150 buck in 17 minutes You just don't have the right 89 pieces of equipment to be "successful". The truth is when they are hunting outside a fence they are on pristine managed property. I could take anyone who can hit a playing card @20 yards and within 2 hours they would dump a 110 inch 2.5 yo. The first week of November they would have a shot at a book buck. That's 37 years of intense land/stand/plot/wind management/experience hunting over 100 stands on the best whitetail dirt on the planet. Take myself or any tv celeb into state forest and bring alot of batteries for video footage.
Correct that would exclude Ted and Spook and many others. It would also exclude many High Fenced customers, due to the fact that in nearly every state I've researched it isn't a hunting licensed used on those operations. It's a purchase of a product...so no it's not considered hunting by definition.
I never use high fence and hunting in the same sentence. My point is many of these shows are filmed in a high fence and they do not disclose this. A recent Wisconsin xbow hunt was filmed and knowing the game laws for Wisconsin they either broke about a dozen laws or had to be hunting in a kennel but did not disclose this to the audience.
Lot of media abuse or non-disclosures occur. Hence why I really hardly watch them...I'll grab the occasional dvd when on clearance sales but only for entertainment value. You see more real hunts on Youtube or places like BH.com than on television stations.
I have to say that I somewhat agree with you upon the subject of guided hunts on world famous deer ranches that consistently have hunters shoot trophy bucks every year is not necessarily hunting in my eyes. But I also strongly disagree with the aspect of people planting food plots and spending time throughout the year preparing their own personal properties that they hunt "cheating". These deer are still wild animals that roam freely wherever they so choose, they are not fenced in and live off the food plots and feed that the hunters leave out for them (usually just to get a picture on a trail camera). This is a new day and age of technology, and I admire a hunter who is successful that uses none at all. But that also means that they must have a spectacular hunting ground or years of technologically deprived hunting experience. Either way preparing for a hunting season by planting food plots and what not doesn't make you a cheater, it just gives you a slight increase in the likelihood of seeing one of these elusive creatures within bow range. Take it for what its worth, which may not be much seeing as it's an 18 year old's opinion. Good luck to you in the woods this year and I hope you have the best of success! Cam
Going back to the high fenced debate eh. Oh man. A real hunter uses a spear tipped by obsidian and runs their game down dressed in loincloth with 8% bodyfat. Everyone else is just a killer.
No! but Ive seen you on my game cams, because you know, using game cams is really ethical and really hunting.
A hunt..er is one who hunts. A farm..er is one who farms. There are rich...er hunters who pay deer farm..ers to hunt their properties. There are deer farm..ers who hunt their own properties, raise, nourish, feed, plot, map their movements, and put many many hours into harvesting their trophys. (just like any other crop) Some of the others, (probably most) of the others here do not have the luxury of owning our own deer habitat, some of us do. I personally only own 5 acres and not much potential for deer management in that space, and topography. I do not resent those who do have the property, time, money, or the luxury of paid guides, or hunts. If I could afford to pay an outfitter to hunt their managed property I probably would. The farmer who raises his crops, works his land, whether it be soybeans, corn, alfalfa, beef, or dairy...I definitely do not envy you, or belittle you in any way...you earned the right to raise a deer herd also, and harvest how you choose. When it comes to watching the "hunting" shows...only when I can't find anything else interesting on tv. Which is why when I watch tv I watch alot of hunting shows...but for entertainment, because that is what they are. ENTERTAINMENT..not reality. My point is this...however you enjoy hunting...respect someone else that may enjoy it differently. We all have a moral code we will not cross...some prefer "traditional" archery, (because they feel compound bows make it too easy)..some will only hunt with a bow...(because rifle hunting is too easy), some will use bait (when and where legal) because they see no difference between placed bait, and a soybean field. I hunt to escape this so-called society, enjoy nature, pursue game, and because I love venison. I bird hunt because I love watching my Springer spaniel work a rooster to flush him, and because I love eating pheasant. I gave up waterfowling because I don't like the taste of goose, and although I love hunting waterfowl..there is no catch-and-release to hunting. So what I am trying to say here is...to those that have the luxury of owning a vast property they can manage to hunt deer on...more power to you, but please respect the others who endeavor to hunt public lands, or with permission on private lands, and don't ridicule them as "lazy" hunters. To us public land hunters, or permission hunters who work just as hard to support our families that is just plain insulting. To the farmers who invest time and money into their deer herds I tip my hat with greatest respect also. Tending your crops regardless of weather, and battling an economy that is increasingly hostile to agriculture, watching a political system that is increasingly urbanized, I do not envy you at all. and I would never call you lazy, or undeserving of harvesting your deer in whatever fashion you deemed morally acceptable.
