I have been a fixed blade guy my whole life anyone shot these my set up is below only difference is im shooting 125 grain heads now would you recommend this i just am skeptical about failure to open.
I really like rage have had great results never had one not deploy around 8 years of useing them always referred to them as painting the forest
Dude, Your at 70 pounds draw weight just screw it on and shoot. Your worrying way to much about stuff I think. Practice, tune the bow and let her fly!
how does my fraw weight have anything to do with a best performing set up id rather have the penetration and a clean quick kill rather then screw a tip on and shoot it its not that simple for me archery is my passion and this is used as a tool to gain insight so that may be good enough for you but for me i like to have the best set up possible. thank you.
Last post as i'm not here to cause arguments. Just basing off all your other posts. Dont get me wrong its great to ask questions as I do it myself and get lots of knowledge from different people on here. Your bow is maxed out at 70 or 72 pounds and for whitetail deer that is more than plenty as far as kinetic energy and momentum unless your using a crazy light arrow. Which i know your not as i've seen your specs in other posts. Personally i use to really worry about my setup way too much. Yes, I like my setup to be very precise like you which is perfectly fine. I've just learned to just tune the bow to the best of my ability and practice, practice, practice. For your setup at 70 pounds with ANY broadhead is more than plenty and will get the job done on ANY deer out there. That is why I posted the last comment. I should have gave more details on my thinking. Honestly, I love the No Cam HTX and wish i had the funds to get one. As far as the Trypan or ANY rage head. With your setup, you have more than enough energy to get the job done versus a setup like mine at 53 pounds I have to be a little more picky on my heads and arrows to make sure I get the most out of my setup to pack a punch. Part of the reason why i went with the Halon to get that little extra speed in my setup for my draw weight. Let her fly man and put a deer down! Trypan or Hypodermic would be my choice with your setup. If i had to use a fixed blade broadhead I would go with one of the Slick Tricks.
I appreciate that thank you, see ive shot fixed blade my whole life and i got a deal on some hypodermics just about 10 min ago a guy wanted to trade my 100 grain g5 montecs for his 125 hypo and i may even still pick up slick tricks, but my HTX is my hunting Set up so i look for max penetration.
I don't think failure to open is a concern! as for penetration I think it is well concluded that fixed blades will get better penetration especially on a shoulder hit but I think with todays modern broad heads and a good shot with your setup penetration should be no problem! Good luck!
Yea I totally get it. Wasnt trying to come off as a DI*& as that is not my intent. We are both here because we have a passion for archery and bowhunting and its cool to talk with others with that same passion and knowledge. When I first started bowhunting I was using a PSE Nova and pulling maybe 45 pounds and I went and got myself some carbon arrows not knowing anything about arrows, kinetic energy, momentum, etc....... My dad had a stand that was HOT and he set me up to try and get a shot. I was in the stand maybe 15 mins and had a buck come walking by and I got a shot at like 5 yards. Long story short, I got about 3 inches of penetration with a 100 grain thunderhead and those Carbon express arrows that I got. Now, I got that deer but it was about 6 hours of tracking and jumping him multiple times until he finally expired. It was all a learning experience. Years later and jump to 2016 and 2017 and I look back on those years of me just starting out and man I knew nothing. My dad and grandpa gave me the baseline of bowhunting but when it comes to archery i'm already light years ahead of what even they knew. The problem with my setup back then was that those stinkin carbon arrows I got had no weight to them, they were super light basic carbon arrows that the archery shop sold me because my arrows would go faster to get more speed. Thats how they sold everybody and still somewhat do. If they had some weight to them, that arrow would have drove farther into the chest cavity. I personally think the key is finding that happy medium of arrow weight to get the best of both worlds. (Speed for flatter trajectory and also arrow weight to push/drive that arrow into that animal . Check out this article, I think it explains things really well. I wish i could pull 70 pounds for a bow haha. At that draw weight you can pretty much use any broadhead. The thing with expandables is you really gotta make sure you dont hit that shoulder. A good hit is typically going to create a massive wound channel and that animal will die. The benefit with a fixed head as you know already is it is 1 solid head, no moving parts = less failure in regards to it not opening ext. Now doing that deter you, If you use Rage for example, the shock collars are pretty damn good. If you put the head on correctly, 99.9% of the time that head will do its job and even if it doesnt open on impact, a good, well placed shot will still kill that animal as the blades will still cut. I personally use the Rage +P as my draw weight is 53-55 pounds. I blew through an 8 pointer this year and he dropped within 40 yards. With your setup you will easily do that same thing if you put the arrow where it needs to be, and have an arrow in that 400-450 grain range or heavier if wanted. https://www.qdma.com/momentum-beats-speed-lethal-arrow-hits/
yeah i understand i plan on picking up a halon 6 after the season as a second bow and running it at maxed out 70ish maybe more pounds if it allows with a 520 grain arrow for hunting. also i agree with it there so much more toa rchery that people dont understand alot of the time and i just want to be a sponge especially with this whole emchanical thing ive never ventured into that range i am lucky to shoot the 72lbs which is nice though so it is easier.
I've used the hypos the last two years and have taken 3 deer and two turkeys with them without issues. My buck last season was a shoulder hit and the rage cut right through it and out the other side. This was at like 15 yards though. I'm not sure how the hypodermic head would not deploy. The other thing I can think of is if you reuse the blades. I never reuse a head after shooting because they are almost always bent. I could see even a slightly bent blade cause the head to not deploy correctly. I know the penetration isn't as good, and I probably would use a fixed head for bigger game like elk, but the amount of trauma caused by the hypodermics is hard to ignore. Blood everywhere and extremely quick kills.
8 Years, lots of dead deer (every single one recovered without an issue), not a single failure. The naysayers are exactly that. There is a reason that these things have been on top of the bowhunting world for a very long time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You should have no problem having them deploy the biggest issue for a new head not deploying in not enough momentum. But you dont have a short draw with low poundage with a light arrow, i see no problem.
Check out this article and video for some insight to the performance of the Rage Trypan and many other broadheads. https://forums.bowhunting.com/threads/bowhunting-com’s-2017-broadhead-evaluation.89689/#post-1348302 I shot the original Rage broadhead for several years. I recovered every deer I shot with one. I had clean pass through's, full penetration without a pass through, and a shoulder shot with only one side of penetration. All recovered withing 0 to 100 yards from the shot. Shooting 29.5" Draw and 70lbs w. roughly a 450 grain arrow. If your all tuned up, you should have excellent success w. just about any broadhead choice.
I've had success using rage products shooting at 70 lbs with around a 421 grain finished arrow weight. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
