I have seen where a few guys on here have said that putting a quiver on you bow will change the spine of your arrows. Does this change usually increase or decrease the spine???
Ok cool well I should be good then w/ a bow mounted quiver, I think my arrows are closer to the underspined side than the overspined side. But I couldnt resist a deal when I saw it.
Not sure about this myself. I would like to hear from some of the others also on this. No offense Jeff.
I'm not sure you are using the word "spine" to mean the deflection of the arrow or the actual spine of the arrow. Most people use it to mean the deflection. In either case however, it is not going to effect the "spine". It may effect the paradox of the arrow, however, I'm not sure how at all since the quiver usually sits before the fade outs and not on the working portion of the limbs or it is attached directly on to the riser. It will however effect the balance of the bow, and this is why I really don't care for them on my bow. I also like to lay the bow directly flat on my lap if I am stand hunting.
So if I got one of the quivers that slips over the limbs of my bow, just make sure it is pushed down on the riser and I should be golden??
Thanks for phrasing that well. I read this and thought "how would a quiver affect spine", never heard the like. I also do not like to shoot with a quiver on my bow. That's why i use a quick removal quiver.
I am sorry I should have worded it better. I do realize that it will not actually change the spine of my arrow but more or less how the arrow shoots. Jeff, you opened up a can of worms that I hope to learn something from too.
I'm not sure if spine is the right word, paradox, or just plain arrow flight. Per O.L.: "Anything that weighs anything adding to the bow changes tuning. 1 ounce in the riser, you won't see but 8 ounces you will. ANYTHING in the moving parts will change the tuning. I stress on my tuning page before you start tuning, set your bow up EXACTLY the way you will hunt with it. Down to filling your quiver minus one arrow, just like it will be when that 200 class buck walks in. Limb covers, limb tip protectors, quivers, silencers, nock sets, strings, clickers, arrow rest material, all effect tuning. Change anything, double check your tuning. You may not see a change if it's minor enough and that's good, just don't take it for granted....O.L."
I'm with ya DC, try adding 8 ounces to the top of riser and not the bottom, or right side and not left, etc. :d The balance of the bow is now gone which is going to effect arrow flight. Try balancing the 8 ounces of weight perfectly and what do you have? A more stable bow, which is probably going to shoot differently and require a different tune. So how do you correct the off balance bow? Tune the bow differently - perhaps. Torque the bow to bring the balance in .... perhaps, but you better be consistant in your torque :d . My correction, leave the quiver off the bow. Ask Dean Torges about putting a quiver on one of his bows. :d But lets keep in mind that not everyone will even notice a difference in shooting a bow with a quiver on it or not. It all depends.
I can see what you are saying there Bob, I think there is a nice hip quiver for sale on the other site for like $20 its got the hood for bhs and stuff. maybe I will just get this one. But man those selways do look cool LOL
Pretty much how I see it. With a quiver on, you slow down the limbs a bit, which makes an arrow tuned to the limbs at full speed, a tad bit stiff. I have never used a limb quiver, so I am just going by what I assume.
If you put a bow mounted quiver that attaches out on the fade of the limbs it may rob some efficiency from them. This can translate into making your arrows act a little stiff because the limbs aren't zipping them as fast. THe closer you attach the quiver to the riser the less impact and possibly no impact. If you have a quiver that bolts to the riser, don't worry about anything.
If the quiver mounts in a non-working portion of the limbs it will have no effect on bow performance, there is no reason for it to change anything. Adding weight to the string or the working portion of the limb will make a difference, more or less strands of string makes a difference simply because of the weight difference and adding weight to the middle of the string will slow it even more. When I bought my Bob Lee I went through the tuning and shot it a lot before putting on a quiver.. After adding the quiver there was no difference in performance or tuning but it did increase my accuracy significantly. woodsman
For some people (I'm this way) they will shoot better with a quiver mounted to their bow (added weight). Kinda the same thing a stabilizer does for a compound. Whether or not It does anything to effect your arrows, not sure. All I know Is I shoot better with one on. I also always practice with my quiver full of arrows just as If I was hunting.
Adding weight to the bow does not effect the bow it will effect the shooter. Like Steve said some shoot better with weight some not. I never shoot with a quiver on my bow.
Well, against most of you guys advice I got me a quiver for my bow. I was browsing around an old archery shop on OCK the other day and I saw an old dusty box. I looked at it and it said it was a qiver for trad bows. It was a quikee quiver that mounts on the limbs and then the hood is held up by another arrow on the back of the quiver. It was ugly as heck but my little mind got to thinking about the ways I could change it LOL. It was awful cheap and I thougt it wouldnt hurt to try. After a little bit of work and remodeling I got it the way I wanted. But then the hood absolutely sucked. So I picked up a little bit of artificial sinew and dug around in my leather stash. About an hour later and I ended up with this. It holds three arrows so I shot it w/ 2 arrows in the quiver and it didnt make any noise or vibration. To be honest I am pleased. Here are a few pics. ( I also had some self healing foam I found for stuffing the hood. Honestly kinda like steve said, I liked the extra bit of weight it added to the bow. The little K-mag was just a tic light. Granted its no Selway but heck it will work for now, my wifes already pissy that I have to have a trad gear budget now. LOL
ZachCL EXCELLENT job on the quiver. Doesn't it hold 4 arrows? I don't think I've seen a Kwikee Kiver for 3 arrows. Adding the foam makes all the difference in the world.
