So I'm getting interviewed tomorrow by the local news tv station about how an Indiana Senator is claiming he would refuse a bill which would continue to allow the 4 or 5 high fenced in "hunting" preserves in Indiana from operating. I just wanted to get a group of hunters thoughts on it.
Although its not my thing and I'm not impressed with kills taken within high fence operation, I have no problem with their existence. Why is our government continuing to close honest jobs when our economy is in the shape it is in.
High fences are going to be a part of hunting from here on out. Genetic developments for trophy animals, predator and invasive species management and of course security. They are really big here in Texas. I'm not talking 100 acre pastures, but 5-30,000 acre ranches. High fence doesn't offer any increase your likelihood of success. They have been the norm in Africa for decades, and nobody gets too bent out of shape over that. Why all the fuss? For the record, both my hunting properties are low fence. :D All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure - Mark Twain
I took my boy on a fenced pig hunt, it was so great. I cant say enough about Billy Reeves and www.hogwildadventutes.com. Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2
I've seen a high-fence operation where you can just walk out into a pasture and kill an elk, buffalo or exotic. To me that's not hunting (but some only want a trophy on a wall and are willing to pay for it). A high-fence operation that consists of 5-30k acres is hunting to me because the animals have a chance to out fox you. High-fence operations are businesses that supply a product. They have customers [clients] that will purchase their goods and be very satisfied with the outcome. Not everyone will purchase their products, goods, or services. High-fence operations are like any other business... let them operate so people that want to purchase their products have that opportunity.
Im gonna prolly catch some heat on this but to me truthfully its not hunting. Your paying to kill an animal that you could if you were such a "great hunter" get your self, for free, in the wild. The way it should be. I dont find anything taken from any of those places to be a trophy. Thats like being on a hockey team and buyin the stanely cup, wheres the effort? 9 times outta 10 a guide will take you set you in a stand/blind, animal walks, boom thats it. You put in no effort, no scoutin, no time, nothin. Therefore makin that "trophy" a bought wall hanger.
It's deer farming not deer hunting. In Illinois if I wanted to shoot a deer with a slug gun, I would have to send in before April 30th to be put in a lottery in order to get a permit. In Illinois if I wanted to shoot a deer behind a fence I would not need a gun permit to do it. Why the difference you ask? Because deer hunting requires a permit to harvest the deer and deer farming requires you just paying the farmer. A wild deer is a natural resource and a high fence deer is a farm animal. The main issue I have with it is the threat of these farm animals actually spreading CWD to deer. This has happened.
The question is not whether HF operations are hunting or not. They are pertaining to the acceptance of them as a recognized business. Why the hell would you not want HF operations around? More dudes buying deer means more money in your state/county/city. These operations hurt nor hinder anyone, ever. As often demonstrated in politics this is an issue of emotional feelings of what the product represents more so than the actual product. High fencing hunting is a good thing. Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2
The only thing that really bothers me about these HF operations is the spread of disease, such as CWD. While I do not agree that all high fence hunts are just zoo shoots, I personally will not be going on any. I prefer the challenge of hunting wild, free range animals with no genetic modifications. As far as a business though, there is nothing wrong with it. There are a lot worse businesses out there that are allowed to operate without a second thought. If guys want to go pay thousands of dollars to shoot an animal behind a fence, more power to them. They are only pouring money back into the economy, which shouldn't be a problem for anybody.
I agree. If someone else wants to shoot an animal in a high fenced area, be it deer or an angus steer, that's their business. If they want to call it hunting, that's their business too. Good luck with your interview!
High fence def has its place...agree with it or not its a good thing for local economies and for the industry as a whole....while it doesn't neccessarily appeal to me personally it plays a part in bringing people to the sport which is always a good thing in my opinon...after all it is still a form of hunting even if it isn't in a traditional sense Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
Steroids and baseball to me kind of thing. my states cwd came from one of these game farms,tax payer for years will pay the bill.
IMO It does more to hurt deer hunting than it helps. The art of deer hunting is to be able to outwit and outsmart an animal that is the master of eluding predators. Being able to beat him at his own game with no boundaries limiting him or you is what makes us better hunters. This is why we Scout, use trailcams, look for beds, rubs, scrapes and deer trails. Getting to know and understand his behavior and trying to pattern him in a short period of time is what makes the "hunt" what it is. You add fences and you limit the deer's ability to evade the predators and eventually take away their survival instincts. Making them domesticated animals.
Interview went great and if i have to choose I fall in line with many of you. I personally don't consider it hunting but they like any business should be encouraged to happen in the state as long as they go about it legally. To me hunting is when the game you are chasing is fair chase..meaning they are not limited to parameters man mad to limit their movement. I wouldn't hunt a preserve like the one near me (120 acres) because hunting is the scouting, the guessing, the countless hours spent getting to know a property and still they can escape you. The operations though exist because there are those who either don't like investing the time and energy to hunt fair chase animals or they simply feel it is hunting in their mind. Either way I'm fan of more business in the state, just be upfront that you're a high fenced "canned" "hunting" operation and do it legally. Do that and you would never be shut down if up to me.
i don't have the full interview, but they did air just a couple clips of it in the one story they showed on the news....link HERE
thanks Rizz...I was told there may be more discussion in the future...if so I'll keep you guys posted
