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Question for those that don't believe in God

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by BJE80, Dec 26, 2013.

  1. BJE80

    BJE80 Legendary Woodsman

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    I understand and can accept that Christ has been stripped out of it for non-believers and it is the way they celebrate. I should of exercised more open mindedness and realized that Christmas is so much more than Jesus's B-day to many people.
     
  2. Hooker

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    It's ok. I can understand your viewpoint. My thoughts on Christmas are all kinds of screwed up with the childhood I had :lol:
     
  3. Iowa Veteran

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    I think most people don't care what the meaning of a holiday is anymore, their main priority is getting a day off.
     
  4. Hooker

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    As with most holidays
     
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    Can not blame a rough childhood for your choices.
     
  6. Iowa Veteran

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    Are you always redundant?
     
  7. Hooker

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    :lol: Nothing about my childhood was rough. I was talking about my very religious family not celebrating Christmas. And now, as an atheist, I celebrate Christmas.
     
  8. Hooker

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    Yes.

    My point was that I rarely hear people complain or say "remember the reason for *insert holiday*" for any other holiday.
     
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    Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
    He that has ears, let him hear.

    Jesus is Christmas! Praise God.

    Christ came to save the lost, read your bible.

    Merry Christmas Bowhunting Brothers, Be Safe and Happy New Year.
     
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    ... to spend with family. This was the first Christmas I did not get to see or hug my Grand Daughter ( she is 10 years old ). If I had a choice of meeting God or getting to see and hug her... God would take a back seat.

    I have a feeling he would be ok with that. If not, he will sort it out in the end.

    Tim
     
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    Must not get out much. I hear Remember the reason for Memorial Day, Veteran's Day, Easter, and Labor Day every year. Advertising agencies would like you to believe it is for spending money, but I know and have heard about the real reasons for those holidays all my life.
     
  12. Hooker

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    That's it.
     
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    Where else can your kid dress like this and be cool:)

    If your happy and content with your life have at it.
    I know some extremely religious people who do not celebrate Christmas the commercial version. They are happy, so have at it.
     
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    Growing up church was a free will obligation. my brother and i never went and our parents never made us, but God was brought up in our conversations when the subject discipline or sacrifice. my wives family is very religious and follow the word of god the best they can. they participate in long prayers before meals and read the bible at Christmas. i will say that i believe in a higher power, but i spend most my time reading Buddhist teachings, they seem to really reflect how i feel about life on earth. i know they say no hunting and killing and to stay away from any business that partakes in either. which i find funny having grown up hunting and fishing and serving my country in the worlds greatest Air Force. I am who i am and thats all i can be.
     
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    So you don't give or receive gifts or any thing associated with it
    just asking ...
     
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    Try KJV of the Bible. Harvesting what Our Lord has Created is part of HIS blessings to us. I love to bowhunt and I pray often in the field that HIS will is for me to connect with a P&Y Buck to take home and make great table fair for my family.
    Good Luck Brother!
     
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    Brother, Sparkchaser says he follows the teachings of Buddha closer than Christianity
     
  18. Sparkchaser

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    Dont get me wrong, i dont claim a religion. i went to church during basic training and found much comfort in the teachings there. i just dont want to be labeled. i do believe in a higher power, but i find i relate to Buddhist teachings more. i was gifted a really nice bible from my wifes family while i was attending church in basic, it has my name and a verse engraved in gold on the cover and it is a truly amazing book. i read through it some and i do agree with many things said in the bible.
     
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    I generally do not, no. That being said, a friend of mine at work gave me a gift this year and in return because I really like the guy, I did the same.
     
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    Many people don't realize that all of the Holiday is Christian even the Santa Claus parts. I laugh at the ignorance. Just let them ramble. -

    Saint Nicholas





    A 13th-century Egyptian depiction of St. Nicholas from Saint Catherine's Monastery, Sinai.
    Saint Nicholas of Myra was a 4th-century Greek Christian bishop of Myra (now Demre) in Lycia, a province of the Byzantine Anatolia, now in Turkey. Nicholas was famous for his generous gifts to the poor, in particular presenting the three impoverished daughters of a pious Christian with dowries so that they would not have to become prostitutes.[7] He was very religious from an early age and devoted his life entirely to Christianity. In continental Europe (more precisely the Netherlands, Belgium, Austria and Germany) he is usually portrayed as a bearded bishop in canonical robes.

    The remains of Saint Nicholas are in Italy. In 1087, the Italian city of Bari, mounted an expedition to locate the tomb of the Saint. The reliquary of St. Nicholas was conquered by Italian sailors and his relics were taken to Bari[8][9] where they are kept to this day. A basilica was constructed the same year to store the loot and the area became a pilgrimage site for the devout. Sailors from Bari collected just half of Nicholas' skeleton, leaving all the minor fragments in the grave. These were collected by Venetian sailors during the first crusade and taken to Venice, where a church to St. Nicholas, the patron of sailors, was built on the San Nicolò al Lido. This tradition was confirmed in two important scientific investigations of the relics in Bari and Venice, which revealed that the relics in the two Italian cities belong to the same skeleton. Saint Nicholas was later claimed as a patron saint of many diverse groups, from archers, sailors, and children to pawnbrokers.[7][10] He is also the patron saint of both Amsterdam and Moscow.[11]

    During the Middle Ages, often on the evening before his name day of 6 December, children were bestowed gifts in his honour. This date was earlier than the original day of gifts for the children, which moved in the course of the Reformation and its opposition to the veneration of saints in many countries on the 24 and 25 December. So Saint Nicholas changed to Santa Claus. The custom of gifting of children at Christmas has been propagated by Martin Luther as an alternative to the previous very popular gift custom on St. Nicholas, to focus the interest of the children to Christ instead of the veneration of saints. Martin Luther first suggested the Christkind as the bringer of gifts. But Nicholas remained popular as gifts bearer for the people.[
     

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