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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by BJE80, Feb 16, 2011.

  1. racewayking

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    x2 on that!!
     
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    So yesterday Walkers people lied in open Court and said the Protesters did $7.5 MILLION in damages to the marble in the Capitol, they claimed the blue painters tape that was used to tape banners up caused the damage......

    Today....they officially take that statement back.....LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I've worked as a painter and know that Blue Painters Tape is harmless, amazing!
     
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    Amazing how good the Wisconsin schools are considering the fact that teachers will work for half what a painter makes with all the education costs they have;)
     
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    Don't feel too bad wis, TX has a 27 billion deficit with a bunch conservative responsible fiscal republicans running state.

    What a mess
     
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    I have peace in my heart:)
     
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    I do, seriously I love hearing all ideas. I love this thread, I am not dug in deep in my beliefs I cannot listen. I agree with a lot members here. I just try to look the issue from a neutral stance.

    Walker is not wrong, spending needs to cut. His attics do not work. His last job he got rid of the union security guards. Hired a private company, not an American one either. For 5 dollars an hour less. He saved on benefits also. Guess what a judge ruled what he did was wrong. Now the county is paying the union guards and the private company guards. He double the expenses, lol

    If we look at fiscal issues not from the right, not from the left, but just looked what actually can we cut, and what do we have to do to balance budgets.

    Can a state like Texas cut 27 billion out of their budget?
    The real question has to be asked, can we cut are way out of this mess? Can we tax break are way out of this mess? Can we raise taxes enough to get out of this mess?

    If someone looks at all three options, and honest person would say, it's going to take all three.

    Synder our gov is not bought by private business, he is a republican, he is doing all three here in MI. Nobody is going to like it, but we all have to pay up.

    Synder is cutting a major job killing tax, he is getting rid of it.
    He is also ending a tax credit that is costing us to much money.
    He is cutting spending across the board.
    He is raising taxes on pensions over 90 grand. We are not taxing this income now. It was zero.

    All three are going to need to happen, or else I fear more hurt will come to many in the middle. It's not the popular answer, nor will it when too many elections. I feel it needs to happen.

    We can say the popular slogans like "fire their asses", "it's our money", "pay your share", etc. We need real leaders right now, not wanna bees hiding behind microphones.
     
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    What you really mean is......we need talking heads, looking for votes.

    For God's sakes...tell me what's wrong with termination - due to insubordination/dereliction of duties. What's wrong with paying your fair share?

    These are ideological fundamentals.
     
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    Jeff,

    As the old saying goes, "If you are not a liberal when you are young you don't have a heart. If you are not conservative when you are old you don't have a brain. lol.
     
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    Nothing. Point out where I did say it was wrong?
     
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    Are you in favor of firing the Wisc. teachers.....if they don't show up for classes?

    Are you in favore of recalling the Dem. Wisc. senators.....if they don't show up to do their jobs?

    Are you in favor of the teachers' union having to pony up their fair share of their own packages?

    Maybe you haven't said it, yet. But, your answers to the above questions will tip your hand.
     
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    I have answered all of them already.
     
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    Thanks for nothing.
     
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    Twice! :tu:
     

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