Please ensure Javascript is enabled for purposes of website accessibility

Public Sector Employee Entitlement

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by BJE80, Feb 16, 2011.

  1. Germ

    Germ Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Posts:
    16,458
    Likes Received:
    3,834
    Dislikes Received:
    158
    Location:
    "The" Michigan
    I think that is true for all of us. This fight is no longer over money, I hope folks can see that.

    Unions/Non Unions all over this country give up money and benfits.

    My wife makes 7% less then she did last year.
     
  2. bigcountry

    bigcountry Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2008
    Posts:
    749
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Westminster, MD
    Sure, I want more, everybody wants more. I just don't want to bankrupt my country getting it. And your wrong, it is about money. And only money. Future money. Future power. Same as over in the middle east right now. They claim its about islam, and what have you, but truth is, the fight for middle east is about money.

    Now, as soon as I post this, a few on here are thinking (I bet), money is there with the rich CEO's. They just want it realicated. Wealth distributed (Carl Marx theory, ie russia, N. Korea). Same with my wife, she wants more, and me have less (hunting funds that is). She considers my lease money, and gear money to be too much (same as union folks think CEO's and the actual investors who start the companies make too much). Where I the breadwinner, think she has a pretty nice deal going. On and on, this battle takes place in households across the nation.
     
  3. GMMAT

    GMMAT Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Posts:
    4,981
    Likes Received:
    1
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Mostly in a treestand
    Gary:

    Easy....or I'll have to post the Biff comic again.

    So...."what you thougth"....what does that even mean? I asked you a question and you tell me to go read a bill. Just answer the question, and save me the time.

    In MI; WI; NC or wherever else you want to cite.....how does kids going to private schools defund the public schools? Are you implying you don't still have to pay school taxes (if your kid's going to private school)?
     
  4. Germ

    Germ Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Posts:
    16,458
    Likes Received:
    3,834
    Dislikes Received:
    158
    Location:
    "The" Michigan
    Please not the Biff comic:lmao:

    Public schools get X amount of money from the state for butts in the seats, if the butts are in private schools, then the public school get x amount less.

    For example our school district gets 7200.00 per student, so the 5 years Hillary was in private school 5*72000=36,000 the public school did not get.

    For example one district in MI has lost more then 500 students in the last decade, so now they have 3,600,000 less in funding from the state.

    The state still gets the tax money, the school does not. The school does still get property tax funding. Using property taxes to fund schools is another issue IMO,
     
  5. BowHuntingFool

    BowHuntingFool Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2008
    Posts:
    4,490
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Wisconsin/Michigan


    Brad... seeing that Walker won the Election by 5%, 124,638 some odd votes and the Lies that Walker is telling, yes, I believe the majority is on "my" side! Do a little research and see how many people didn't vote in 2010 that voted in the previous election, and how many were Democrats.... Talk about waking a sleeping giant.....I have talked with plenty of people that voted for him that wouldn't do so today, not so much the other way around......

    Who decides who is overpaid?? I don't want to take away pay, I want the people who are underpaid to make more....I'm all about going forward! There are a lot of people that make more money than I.... do I want them to make less because of it, hell no!!!
     
  6. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2009
    Posts:
    29,148
    Likes Received:
    56,439
    Dislikes Received:
    40
    Location:
    Eastern Missouri
    Everyone making a certain income should fund school costs, regardless of home ownership.
     
  7. BJE80

    BJE80 Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2009
    Posts:
    14,268
    Likes Received:
    279
    Dislikes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Central and Northern Wisconsin
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2011
  8. BowHuntingFool

    BowHuntingFool Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2008
    Posts:
    4,490
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Wisconsin/Michigan
  9. bigcountry

    bigcountry Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2008
    Posts:
    749
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Westminster, MD
    I myself don't believe the majority is on the unions side. No matter how many people are at the capital. I could be wrong.

    All across this country, the public's opinion of public service unions is going down.

    Baltimore, for instance paid for billboards, for the firemans and police, to get support for thier bargaining of retirement time. It was hard for everyone to support folks who want full retirement at 20-25 years, when the majority of the public who pays for it, don't have that luxury. Its just hard to feel sorry for folks who have more than you and you are paying for them.

    Your case is different. You are not paid by the public. I hope you get all you deserve in life Joe. But I think I should have a say when it comes from my tax money.
     
  10. Sswpriz

    Sswpriz Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Posts:
    582
    Likes Received:
    2
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Greendale, Wisconsin
    "Dropping puppies from the roof onto protestors ?"

    Oh give me a frickin break !!! This is how they respond ? And we're paying these people to run our government ?
     
  11. BowHuntingFool

    BowHuntingFool Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2008
    Posts:
    4,490
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Wisconsin/Michigan
    I love it, the Wisconsin 14 just said they have NO PLANS on returning to Wisconsin anytime soon, no matter how the Republicans try to scare them into doing so.....
     
  12. Sliverflicker

    Sliverflicker Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2008
    Posts:
    4,031
    Likes Received:
    220
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Back in Michigan
    I thought ALL ment ALL!
     
  13. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2009
    Posts:
    29,148
    Likes Received:
    56,439
    Dislikes Received:
    40
    Location:
    Eastern Missouri
    So anytime someone thinks they are going to lose a vote they should just skip town? The precedent being set here is dangerous.
     
  14. dukemichaels

    dukemichaels Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Posts:
    3,155
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Illinois..
    They're skipping out because Walker will not compromise.

    Apparently he is more of a "it's my way or the highway" type.

    Great leaders are great diplomats.. Walker should be drawing a compromise on this issue using diplomacy.

    I don't know why so many people have forgotten what a Gov or President does. Their are two sides to this argument Mr. Walker.. so do your job and get them to agree on the best proposal.

    VS.. this is democracy at its finest... and although I am not a democrat I applaud them.
     
  15. dukemichaels

    dukemichaels Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Posts:
    3,155
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Illinois..
    Most elected officials are eligible after 5 years of service.

    Before you take from your neighbor you might want to start taking a closer look at your ballot.
     
  16. dukemichaels

    dukemichaels Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Posts:
    3,155
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Illinois..
  17. BowHuntingFool

    BowHuntingFool Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2008
    Posts:
    4,490
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Wisconsin/Michigan
  18. dukemichaels

    dukemichaels Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Posts:
    3,155
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Illinois..
  19. BowHuntingFool

    BowHuntingFool Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2008
    Posts:
    4,490
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Wisconsin/Michigan

    Thats awesome brother!!!! :rock:
     
  20. Dan

    Dan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2008
    Posts:
    7,307
    Likes Received:
    5
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    NW Wisconsin

    And to cover our $3.6 billion shortfall over the next two years are you going to send us $828.95? Which is each adults share, if you use this dude's same population figures.
     

Share This Page