So I've had this idea for a couple of years now, but could never get Todd to bite on it. I want to make a 1-2 episode series of Todd vs Justin in a public land challenge here in IL. I finally got him to agree, so it looks like it's a go for this fall. Like all people, our time is limited for this, so the idea of traveling out of state somewhere for a week just isn't going to happen. I'm already going antelope and elk hunting this fall and my out of state time is being taken up on those trips. Therefore, the idea is to do something close to Todd's farm, so we can drive back and forth each day. Here's a general idea of what I'm thinking. 2 day challenge in mid October, during the "lull". This should be fun as it challenges us to see if we can get a deer killed during one of the more difficult times to hunt, on a brand new piece of public. We will most likely do this during the week to try and avoid as many people as possible. I'm thinking a Tuesday/Weds. We pick several public hunting spots that we've never been to and draw one from a hat at random. No pre-scouting work, asking our buddies, etc. We don't find out where we're going until the night before we hunt. The challenge starts the next morning with no time to pre-scout, hang stands, etc. We can elect to go in during the dark based on maps/topography and hunt right away, or use the morning to scout for the remaining time. We have to determine some sort of criteria for success that doesn't involve killing a deer, because chances are good we don't shoot anything. I'm thinking it will be something to do with filming deer along with their sex/age/proximity. Example: filming a deer within bow range versus a deer on the other side of a field or filming a buck versus a doe, etc. Now, I also think we need to mix things up a little bit to make it interesting. I had a couple of ideas, but am open to suggestions on what you guys think would make this more engaging to watch. Each person gets to pick 2 items from the other person's pack that they aren't allowed to use. It can't be something they absolutely need like a release or their quiver, but other items like grunt calls, rattling antlers, wind checker, etc. Hold a competition before the event starts that allows us to earn advantages. Example: loser can't leave their truck in the morning until legal shooting light, or has to get down from their stand 1/2 hour before legal light ends. So there you go! I'm open to feedback and suggestions on making this both fun and educational.