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Prison does not work!

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by John Galt, May 29, 2013.

  1. Skywalker

    Skywalker Grizzled Veteran

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    RCW-74.29.105. As an ex-felon you are classified as a Disadvantaged Minority and Eligible for benefits. You may also want to contact H.U.D. for low cost housing. For info write to:
    Department of Health and Human Services
    Social Security Administration
    P.O. Box 19001
    Olympia, WA. 98507
    2) Another thing you can get as an ex-felon is vouchers for food, housing and clothing. When you get out, go down to the Dept. of Social and Health Services in your area and apply for $180.00 in immediate food stamps.
    3) You can also get money to help you apply to your trade. Go down to the Dept. of Vocational Rehabilitation and tell them about your trade. Go to different stores and price the clothing and equipment that you will need to start your dream or business. You can get a check from them for $1,500.00; this is under RCW-72.02.100 which also covers an extra $100.00 gate money when you are released.
    4) Apply for disability with your local Social Security Office. You will be turned down the first three (3) times, but on the fourth time you will not be turned down. A week or two later you will start receiving checks for $310.00 for every month that you were incarcerated and three (3) months before and after that time, not to exceed $4,800.00 per year.
    5) The Small Business Administration will loan you up to $24,000.00 to start up any business you want. They will also loan you $500.00 towards any work vehicle. The Federal Government Guarantees your loan, bonding you up to $10,000.00. As an ex-felon you are a minority and are eligible for any and all benefits due to anyone in that category.
    6) Targeted job tax credits will give your employer a $3,000.00 tax write-off the first year you work for Him/Her and $1,500.00 the second year. If your employer is training you in a skill, the Federal Government will pay half of your wages for the first year in addition to the tax cut. A few other sources for Small Business Loans and Grants.
    Grant Administration Division
    Minority Business Development
    Washington, D.C. 20230
    These people give grants of up to $10,000.00 under the heading, Minority Business Development, Management and Technical Assistance. Their objective is to provide free financial help in starting or operating your own business. You can also get loans from:
    Direct-Office of Financing
    Small Business Administration
    1441 D Street, NW
    Washington, D.C. 20416
    The SBA helps to put together economic opportunity loans for your small business. Loans range from $1,000.00 all the way up to $315,000.00. These loans are specifically for small business owned by low income or socially or economically disadvantaged persons. If you run into problems go to your local library and copy the section of the law pertaining to the money that you are after. Then go back and show it to the person to whom you spoke to. (Required by 39 U.S.C. 3885).
     
  2. chopayne

    chopayne Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Wow that just doesnt sound right
     
  3. tacklebox

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    I just puked
     
  4. Skywalker

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    I can't speak to the validity of the info, but it seems like someone put a lot of effort into researching it. It wouldn't surprise me if it was right, we have some crazy stupid laws!
     
  5. John Galt

    John Galt Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Bolivian prisons are not over crowded. :)

    And there are very few repeat offenders!


    Villagers in Bolivia's southern highlands buried a man alive in the grave of the woman he is suspected of having raped and murdered, an official said Thursday.

    Police had identified 17-year-old Santos Ramos as the possible culprit in the attack on 35-year-old Leandra Arias Janco Sunday in a Quechua community near the municipality of Colquechaca, said Jose Luis Barrios, the chief prosecutor in Potosi province where the community is located.

    Enraged, more than 200 community members seized Ramos and buried him alive alongside his alleged victim Wednesday night, according to Barrios. He said residents on Thursday blocked the road to the community, preventing police and prosecutors from reaching it.

    A local reporter for an indigenous radio station, who would only speak on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals, told The AP that Ramos was tied up at the woman's funeral. Mourners threw him into the open grave, placed the woman's coffin in it and filled the grave with earth.

    Colquechaca is a town of 5,000 inhabitants located 207 miles (333 kilometers) southeast of Bolivia's capital, La Paz.

    Also in Potosi, residents of the Quechua indigenous community of Tres Cruces on Wednesday stoned to death a suspected thief and burned his accomplice alive, Barrios said. The official said the two had earlier robbed a car and killed its driver.

    Lynchings sometimes occur in rural and poor parts of Bolivia where police and other authorities are scarce.



    Read more: Bolivian villagers bury suspected killer alive with victim | Fox News
     
  6. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    The size of our prison population is off the hook. At any given time nearly 1% of our population is incarcerated. We have the same people returning to prison over and over and over and over and over. Unbelievable slugs of our society just don't care about following any semblance of the law.
     
  7. chopayne

    chopayne Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Terrible way to die if that guy was innocent.
     
  8. sachiko

    sachiko Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I'm not a lawyer, but my husband is. He does a lot of criminal defense. Here's how he explains it.

    Obviously, you're not regarded as "innocent" until proven guilty or you wouldn't be jailed and forced to post bond or remain in jail until trial if you were truly regarded as "innocent" until proven guilty.

    What that phrase really means is that, at trial, the burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove, BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, that you committed the crime. You DO NOT have to prove that you didn't.

    The standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt." Even if the jury is pretty sure you're guilty, they have to find you not guilty if there is a "reasonable doubt."
     
  9. REMYNGTON

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    I watched a documentary on Russian Prisons last night on Netflix. There is definitely quite a few things our system could learn from theirs.
     

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