Primo's Law Suite

well said and well put

 

The way it goes in copyright is if you don't protect it you lose it. If they don't protect their copyright it could open the gates for competitors to release competing products with truth on them. The way this will end is Primos granting the non-profit permission to the truth brand. However for Primos this is now a pr nightmare and went about it completely the wrong way.

 

What saddens me is when guys take Scripture out of context like you just did ...

Boycotting a product is not vengeful and bitter ... taking up arms would be ... informing people of things that are going on IS Biblical ... I bet I know what belief system you belong too ....

 

First of all I would think it would be a trademark issue rather than copyright. Secondly, I think that it would be incumbent upon Primos to demonstrate that "Huntin' for Truth" actually violates the "Truth About Hunting" trademark of Primos. As was recently demonstrated in the Apple/Amazon "App Store" suit, Generic terms do not necessarily carry an automatic ability to be trademarked, and simply trademarking the term "Truth" doesn't automatically give carte blanche for Primos to preclude any and all other companies from using that term.

Personally, if someone puts up the money for the Ministry, I think Primos is going to have a long uphill battle to defend their position.

Nonetheless, I'm still very disappointed in how the "ministry" went about dealing with this.

 

By all means, please let me know how I took it out of context. I agree that the exact circumstance doesn't apply, but the principle of taking things into a public forum of non-believers would seem to aptly apply, IMO.

Also, since you appear to be in the know, please share with me "what belief system I belong to" b/c I truly have no idea what you are insinuating.

 

Indychris, welcome to the forums... question, are you on the PR staff for Will? 4 posts, all in this thread... just wondering that's all...

Personally, I feel Primos is way out of line regardless of the situation and personally will never purchase another Primos product again... but this is just more BS I've seen from Will... and it's really his brother with the $, Will is just the face of Primos...

I watched Will at a show while I was talking with Brad Farris complain (rudely) that he didn't want to shake hands with his public, now I'm well versed in the germs that can spread with this transaction, that's why we keep antibacterial behind the counter at the shows... I simply told Brad, hey, that's his income right there, he better be shaking hands with them..

 

Yeppers.... EVeryone should keep in mind that there are two sides to every story.... Will Primos has been known as a CLASS ACT in the hunting community for a LONG time, and I'm sure he probably contacted these people in efforts to nicely resolve the issue. If they're being sued, it's because they chose to be sued, by fighting a request.... There are a million other creative names that they could have moved on to.... "The Truth" in the hunting community has been synonymous with the Primos guys be it in deer hunting, turkey hunting, or the elk series, and I can understand where the "Hunting the Truth" could easily be misbadged as something it's not.

 

This thread provided some good entertainment and laughs. Thanks for that.

If only we would see this much action in trying to improve our country. And when there is, it gets bashed. Sigh.

 

The name is in no way harming their company or income stream and as was mentioned earlier in this thread "The Truth" as a saying, quote, or whatever you want to call it is very common. I also don't understand how anyone figures they "chose to be sued" when it seems like they just don't believe the name of their non-profit organization is hurting the monster hunting industry company and told them to go pound sand. A couple of times in this thread it has been mentioned that they were probably asked to change it and didn't so they brought being sued on themselves. Why are they obligated to change their name just because Will or someone asked? The better question is why are they even asking? What is the angle for Primos here, they are not losing money over this. I don't really buy their stuff anyways so I can't really boycott them but I am now very curious about the details of this lawsuit from both sides.

 

I agree that the context of Paul speaking to the Corinthians regards not suing other believers. But the principle involved (as Paul specifically states) is--at least in part-- taking spiritual issues before people not overtly concerned with spiritual things. Is that not the very thing that has been done in this case? Taking a beef over a spiritual issue before a public forum in order to drum up sentiment against Primos? If I've misunderstood that, please correct me. I'm certainly not above being wrong.

And there are certainly other examples and passages that could be used to build a consistent case about how we interact with those who content against us that we don't need the 1 Corinthians passage specifically.

Now I was chastised earlier for asserting that calling for a boycott is a vengeful and/or bitter response. I would have to ask, what is the purpose in calling for a boycott if it is not indeed to somehow cause damage/harm to the boycotted company? What other purpose does a boycott serve? Boycotting's only purpose as far as I can tell is to create financial harm to an entity in order to get them to change a position.

How is that not a vengeful or bitter response? How does calling for a boycott fulfill Jesus' and Paul's commands to lover our enemies and pray for those who persecute us?

 

Wow. That's it? B/C I disagree I must be on the Primos PR staff?

By the way, stopping at "Welcome to the forums" is the way that you would have made someone feel welcome.

Continuing with an unfounded assumption would seemingly reveal that you were engaging in pleasantries for the sake of formality.

 

Man, some of you folks could make conclusion jumping an olympic sport.

But for the sake of clarity--as I do acknowledge that this is the only topic on which I've posted here-- I have absolutely NO connection to Primos, and aside from a bow sling and a couple of turkey diaphragm calls, I don't think I own much other Primos stuff.

In fact, the only reason I ended up here was the removal of a (I though thought rather tactful) post on the Huntin' the truth Facebook page that was promptly removed. Yes, I absolutely disagree with the actions of HTT, but I would assume they could handle that as I was neither disparaging nor rude.

I saw a link to this forum on that Facebook page, and followed it to see what was being discussed. I responded here in like kind, and voila! Now I apparently am on the staff of Primos and am also of a 'certain kind' of persuasion of Christian that I haven't yet been able to identify.

 

I seriously think this thread is getting out of hand , I suppose the easy answer is to just ignore it , but I've learnt more from the Bible in this thread , than I have in my lifetime ....... Thanks

 

Indychris, If you can't take some then I probably wouldn't post, and I don't see where anyone from the Ministry is posting on this forum stating to Boycott Primos. Indeed we are to Pray for those that Persecute us and Love our Enemies but that doesn't mean we have to support them.

And that is all I have to say about that.

 

Don't worry, I have no problem with the heat. If I did, I wouldn't still be here. I would have simply been a drive-by poster.

And I wouldn't attempt to persuade anyone to go against their conscience. Whether or not to buy Primos stuff is clearly a personal decision. And whether or not the people from HTT are calling for a boycott on this thread or not, their Facebook page is full of posts calling for it. And as they have aptly demonstrated with my post, they are quite adept at removing posts from Facebook.

Again, my issue is only with desiring to see the Church handle conflict and disagreement with an attitude of Christlikeness. I was simply concerned with the direction that things seemed to be going in the online posts that I had seen.

Other than that, I have no beef with anyone.

 

I'd be surprised if Primos didn't just ask for them to change their name to begin with before they sued. Can't wait to see when both sides of the story comes out. Either way I'll keep using my Primos products lol.

 

I heard Will Primos hates children and the handicapped. I read it on the interwebs so it has to be true.