Murder affects others. Smoking marijuana doesn't... (can't use driving under the influence because that would STILL be illegal, as it currently is with alcohol).
There are some reasonable laws which should be enforced, without laws it would be anarchy. Like TEmbry stated, pot does not effect others, Meth, Murder, Microsoft do. Sorry I just wanted another M. If something like bath salts, heroin, cocaine, pcp, make you get high and have crimes related to it (like alcohol) there should be restrictions. I have yet to see Pot be anymore dangerous than cigarettes, and even more so, alcohol. Tell me where this is true, really please do because you seem to pull evidence out of nowhere.
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You can't say smoking pot doesn't affect others, there are studies that show otherwise, as was linked somewhere way back in this thread. Also, yes I would be for alcohol being illegal, but I also understand there's no way to go back at this point. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
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Just because you have a study, doesn't make it correct. I could make a study and publish it and you would cite it if it fit your agenda. Yes there is a way to go back, we even tried, guess what it didnt work. Do you know more than the first 10 amendments? Do you understand what happened when alcohol became legal?
I think it was TEmbry who asked, but yes, I am for pot being illegal and alcohol being legal. There is not really any such thing as pot in moderation. You either are, or are not stoned. I can have a glass or 2 of wine, 1-2 drinks, or even 3-6 beers and not be hammered or even buzzed depending on how fast I drink them or how high the alcohol percentage is. My buying booze does not send money to violent drug cartels who chop people's heads off. And don't tell me any BS that legalization of weed will end that- it will not. Legal pot costs over 20% more than black market weed, and it's darn near impossible for "revenuers" to tell the difference between "legal" weed and black market weed. Legalizing weed only sets a price ceiling on a commodity that the the black marketers are already under. Cartels are FLOODING Colorado with weed. Sure, the state has made tens of millions off of it, but the black marketers have made hundreds of millions. As much as I wish people would not self-medicate into oblivion, I'm libertarian enough to think that if you want to use home grown and mess with your brain chemistry, have at it. Grow it, smoke it, swap it, whatever. Just don't try to make any money off of it. The G is too greedy not to overcharge, and too stupid to see that all they're doing is creating the perfect environment for a black market to not just survive, but flourish. All that being said....OK. How's this: if the G would institute 100% mandatory drug testing for all welfare recipients for a period of 12 months, and if the percentage of recipients who tested positive was under 80%- I would consider voting for the legalization of weed.
You seriously make it impossible to have a civil discussion with you. Believe what ever you want, I will believe what ever I want. I have no agenda, but I do have opinions on what I think is right and what is wrong. I'm entitled to those opinions just as you are. The difference is, I'm willing to have a civil discussion about them, and all you do is try to prove how smart you think you are. So studies are only correct if you agree with them, got it. You don't believe there are any negatives to weed, therefor any study that says different is incorrect. I just wish I was as smart and as wise as you. Please keep using your brilliant logic to argue with everyone that ever has a different opinion, it truly shows just how intelligent you are. Keep it up Einstein, your going to change the world someday.
Aha! You see here is the issue I have Who are you to impose your beliefs of "right and wrong" onto others? Like I said before, if we want to live in a truly free world, we have to allow others to do things that we believe are wrong, whether ethically or morally.
Oh right all my fault. I was simply pointing out you don't have a base of studies instead a "rogue" study. It's kind of like believing everything infowars.com presents. Of that's your cup of tea, have at it. It's not that you're incorrect, you simply remain ignorant of facts even though I keep pointing them out to you. You provide no evidence ever, other than your feelings. Which would be fine if you weren't trying to prove how bad weed is and act like prohibition was never enacted. I don't know what else to tell you, if 1+1 does equal 2 and you refuse to believe it, well I guess like you said. I'll believe it and you wont. Take this as derogatory as you want, but the only einsteinian formula I've pulled out is basic math.
I can't be a fan of your idea. The cost benefit of drug testing would increase our tax burden. Also your bet is arbitrary and kind of jus thrown out there to try and prove welfare recipients are on drugs? I'd much rather test them, those who test positive are forever banned from government benefits. I don't know much about weed, but aren't there different levels of being high? Like slightly high, high, and stoned? Similar to alcohol?
When others affect my family, friends, career, or country I will impose my beliefs on them. I am against weed because it is a stepping stone to hard drugs. The dealer knows they can make more by selling meth so they get a person hook on weed then come back and say you liked that? Well here try this... And now we have another meth head instead of a pot head. For you guys that want to legilize marijuana, do you want your parents to start smoking? Do you want your siblings and cousin? Do you want your friends to start weed? How about your children? Do you want them to grow up and smoke weed? I'm not talking about the ability to smoke weed, I'm talking actually wanting them too as if it got passed tomorrow would you want your kids to actually go buy weed at start smoking it on a regular basis? This is a yes or no question only, Yes I want my friends/family to start smoking No I don't want my friends/family to start smoking Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
What Utopian free world are you referring to? I want to live in a civilized society. That means there are rules, some that you don't like. By the way, I'm not "imposing" my believes on anyone. People are free to do what they want, that doesn't mean that I have to approve of it or support it. I have the right to state my believes, that is all that I'm doing. My belief is that weed should remain illegal. Period, I have have no part in the decision process as the whether or not that happens, aside from possibly one vote out of millions.
Midwest, I think that theory of Weed as gateway drug has been debunked. I know I was taught it as a kid, but recently, the rumor mill told me they never found any conclusive evidence that it leads to harder drugs. Something I tend to believe as most of my weed indulging friends didn't go all crazy, but some did.
Actually there are numerous government funded studies that have disproved the gateway drug theory. In 2009, 2.3 million people reported using weed as opposed to 617,000 that reported using harder drugs. If weed was truly a gateway drug then the number of people using harder drugs would be higher. Also many people that "start" with weed and move to harder drugs, actually started with alcohol and tobacco before legal age.
Where are your FACTS that prove without a doubt that Weed has no adverse affects on people? Please enlighten me? You are the one that just states your opinion as fact. I didn't really feel like I needed to link my resources as to why I feel weed can be dangerous or unhealthy because honestly I figured most people were aware of effects. My bad. Here you go. Please read up, then tell me how all this info is because of some "rogue" study and how that you know everything already and how smart you are and how dumb I am for having my opinion. DrugFacts: Marijuana | National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) Marijuana | Brown University Health Education Recreational Marijuana: Are There Health Effects? Casual marijuana use creates brain changes, new report shows - Health & wellness - The Boston Globe Casual marijuana use may damage your brain ? The Chart - CNN.com Blogs Six Ways Science Says Marijuana May Hurt Your Health - TIME Marijuana use may lead to cardiac arrest and other heart problems - CBS News WHO | Cannabis
