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Pot Legal in Washington Today

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by SPOTnSTALK, Jul 8, 2014.

  1. TwoBucks

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    it was mentioned earlier, im a little behind.
     
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    Better to be a little behind than a large one..
     
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    Make it like poaching. They get caught they confiscate the car their house automatic 30days in the hole or weekend road clean up. Just make it not worth the hassle getting caught.
     
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    LOL. Ok. You doing Hookers bit now:).
     
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    You clearly have no understanding of what I'm talking about. More laws, less laws, what the hell are you talking about. Laws are the building blocks of a civil society, they are important and necessary. I'm for laws that make sense and protect its citizens. If that means you don't get to do what you selfishly want, well I guess that's just too bad for you, as I'm much more concerned about the greater good of our society. To me, that means enforcing the drug laws that are already on the books.

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    It's always worth the hassle, there is always someone irresponsible who will want to make money and they will grow it for the person who needs it. How is this punishment any worse than the ones in place right now for making marijuana? Im not too sure of drug laws but im pretty sure manufacturing after a certain amount carries a harsher punishment than this.
     
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    How did the prohibition protect citizens? How does outlying pot protect citizens? How did creating stricter gun laws help protect citizens? Please enlighten me with your knowledge. Enforcing drug laws that are already on the books, so that means nothing should ever change right?

    Laws are important and necessary, but not numerous ones. Are you not for capitalistic society and more for socialist or communist? Because those are the ones with more laws and more government intervention. Wait...Im twisting your words aren't I?
     
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    Don't fill up our prisons with kids getting stoned. Isn't that the point that being made here? We're wasting tax dollars on fighting stoners that just want any other way to get high?

    I talk my talk to the people that want to listen because I think it's the better way to live. But that's me. Been there done that but never bought the TShirt.
     
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    Yea we're talkign about pot. There have been far more alcohol violent related incidents than ones with pot. Meth is a different beast that is linked to much violence, not pot. It's basically like a cigarette, just longer lasting different effects (from what I hear). I won't do it because I don't need another money sucking hobby, but if the consumeristic rebel american society wants it, they sure can. They're already doing it.
     
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    That is one argument, another is that it's no more dangerous than alcohol or cigarettes, id seriously say it's more dangerous than alcohol, I doubt we'll see a MAMD (mothers against marijuana driving) or some other program like that. I doubt we'll see nearly as many beatings, shootings, killings which are pot related vs alcohol related. We are also wasting tax dollars on fighting pot, which isn't a big crime inducer when we should be fighting other crimes.

    I dont know what your last statement means?
     
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    Well let's see, if alcohol were illegal, would there be less alcohol induced motor vehicle accidents, or less domestic violence? The answer to that is obvious. This isn't about guns, but there are laws that can be made to help keep guns away from criminals or unstable people. This would help protect innocent people. Again, every single civilized society is built on rules and laws, they are what makes them civilized.

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    Wow this blew up. I say legalize it. If someone gets killed because someone was driving under the influence I'm sorry. Texting on cell phones is legal but people have been killed due to texting and driving. Should we outlaw cell phones?
    You could use this argument for everything to be outlawed.
     
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    I'll take that bet. I think you'll see a lot of pot related crimes in the future we just need to find an easy way to test for weed.

    Last statement just meant I talk to relatives and younger friends about the years I wasted getting wasted and I don't recommend it.

    I'm no angle and I really wish I'd of hung out more with the jocks and gotten more into sports and academic back in school than the burn outs day dreaming about how cool we are. Luckily I move out of town and started going to a Christian school at 16 and it gave me a chance to see another side of life with out pot and alcohol. I've done well but I'm sure I could have done better had I not wasted those years.
     
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    I like that line of thought. Let's instead legalize drugs and alcohol along side guns, but only to normal people. We will outlaw it from criminals (since they all have records and willingly admit to being such), as well as "unstable" people. We can hire an army of shrinks to prescreen people to determine if they are fit to own a gun, drink a beer, or smoke a joint. Society will be much safer and our rights won't be infringed upon. Criminals will surely have no access to any of these items, and no stable person would ever be deemed unworthy.
     
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    It was illegal. Guess what, crime rates went up. Do you not read about history?

    Prohibition, and its Effects on Chicagoans, and Organized Crime
    Alcohol Prohibition Was A Failure

    Again your lack of research astounds me, in what you think you know and what you don't actually know. Don't just theorize, back it up.

    Please tell me exactly what kind of law would keep guns away from criminals or unstable people, you will most likely be the next celebrity. Everyone else has failed, Skywalker should succeed right?
     
  16. Skywalker

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    Or we could just have no regulation at all and let people do what ever they want with no repercussions, I'm sure that's going to work out well too.

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    Well blood and pee tests, right now there are no "breathalyzers" and it would be hard to determine as im sure alcohol is taken in conjunction with weed. So it would be hard to rule which drug was the culprit.
     
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    Or spend tons of money and time enforcing laws which don't work with the same results, infringe on our rights, and only punish responsible people. That is so much better.
     
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    Laws against murder don't work either, should we repeal those too?

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    Just for clarification... You actually think restricting gun access by determining who is and isn't "stable" is a good role for the government to have?

    I also wish everyone against pot legalization would clarify if they agree with alcohol being legal or not... Just trying to wrap my head around the mindset to try and better understand where y'all are coming from.
     

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