Please ensure Javascript is enabled for purposes of website accessibility

Political venting

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Artem256, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. Between2Bluffs

    Between2Bluffs Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2019
    Posts:
    249
    Likes Received:
    445
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Location:
    WI
    Sondland burning the house to the ground isn't really what I would call bipartisan, but I see your point. Working with the other side to get your bill passed is bipartisan. Being something when it only benefits you isn't.
     
  2. oldnotdead

    oldnotdead Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2019
    Posts:
    11,039
    Likes Received:
    16,694
    Dislikes Received:
    25
    Well I Don't think it was a burning down the House situation, depending on what side you lean. I haven't read enough of your posts to determine that.
    Now Dr Hill if you walk through her testimony and understand the player's who's names she dropped, the words she used, eye contacts and facial movements. Also how she describes her importance. Not to say she's not knowledgeable, well educated, and definitely connected. Though she has no doubt in her mandate and views being paramount. So she really didn't help Schiff.
     
  3. GregH

    GregH Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2008
    Posts:
    20,775
    Likes Received:
    63,207
    Dislikes Received:
    30
  4. Between2Bluffs

    Between2Bluffs Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2019
    Posts:
    249
    Likes Received:
    445
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Location:
    WI
    I'm a republican, but you might be the only person I've seen who thinks Dr. Hill's testimony doesn't help Schiff.
     
  5. oldnotdead

    oldnotdead Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2019
    Posts:
    11,039
    Likes Received:
    16,694
    Dislikes Received:
    25
    Well that might be because I tend to look and listen to EVERY aspect of the testamonies. I listen to All the words they chose. Also little tid bits she injected then things she said after. Such as going through and studying others testimonies and looking up things from when she was being questioned behind closed doors. Yet seemed to be ignorant to Ukraine's own investigation into their involvement in the 2016 election and their conclusion. The fact she said she had seen the Steele dossier and when and how that happened. Actually the list goes on...
     
  6. dmen

    dmen Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    May 1, 2009
    Posts:
    2,627
    Likes Received:
    2,552
    Dislikes Received:
    3
    Location:
    maine
    It doesn’t help if they take into account her expert opinion that the US should not give Ukraine any military aid just 4 years ago. And the fact she stated Ukraine didn’t interfere with our elections yet the Ukrainian govt has explicitly said and I believe convicted there own people of helping the Clinton campaign in 2016.
     
    dnoodles and oldnotdead like this.
  7. Between2Bluffs

    Between2Bluffs Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2019
    Posts:
    249
    Likes Received:
    445
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Location:
    WI
    Well she said that in an opinion piece before she worked for the Trump administration. And it wasn't aid as in money, but rather weapons that she didn't believe they should get. She said after starting work with the state department that she changed her mind though and that she now believes they should receive both weapons and monetary aid.
     
  8. Between2Bluffs

    Between2Bluffs Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2019
    Posts:
    249
    Likes Received:
    445
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Location:
    WI
    She didn't say she saw when and how the dossier happened. She said she saw a copy of it when she worked at the Brooking's Institute. She also said she won't recognize the talking point that it was Ukraine and not Russia that interfered in the 2016 election. Show me where Ukraine investigated and concluded that it was their own country and not Russia that interfered in the 2016 election?
     
  9. Between2Bluffs

    Between2Bluffs Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2019
    Posts:
    249
    Likes Received:
    445
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Location:
    WI
    AG Barr said he "personally reviewed security footage" and can confirm nobody entered the area where Epstein was being held the night he died. Oh well I guess that settles it then.:rolleyes:
     
  10. Germ

    Germ Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Posts:
    16,049
    Likes Received:
    3,541
    Dislikes Received:
    123
    Location:
    "The" Michigan
    Trump is simply a peer marketing genius
     
  11. opossumhunterNC

    opossumhunterNC Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2019
    Posts:
    2,121
    Likes Received:
    3,434
    Dislikes Received:
    5
    Seems fishy to me, I haven't spent a lot of time in a prison, but I imagine that there was at least somebody who occasionally walked by to check on them. I mean if I have a doorbell camera on my front door and somebody looked at it they could say that they reviewed the footage and saw nobody enter my home in the past week. They would be telling the truth since I always use door in the garage. In fact, the only people whoever come to my front door are the Jehovah witnesses and I don't ever let those shady guys in - I usually just hand them a brochure about islam and tell them to come talk to me if they are interested in joining the temple then send them on their way.
     
  12. oldnotdead

    oldnotdead Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2019
    Posts:
    11,039
    Likes Received:
    16,694
    Dislikes Received:
    25
    What she said was she saw a copy in Jan 2017 the day before it was published in Buzz feed, shocked that Steele was the author. Also it was garbage she believed was fed to Steele by Russia. Testimony Oct hearings. So more accurate. The Ukrainian statement I believe was a Politico release and The Hill in May.
     
  13. opossumhunterNC

    opossumhunterNC Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2019
    Posts:
    2,121
    Likes Received:
    3,434
    Dislikes Received:
    5
    I find it kind of reassuring that it doesn't matter if somebody is a die hard socialist leftist democrat or middle of the road independent, or a no questions asked trump republican, we can all still agree on one thing.... Epstien Didn't Kill Himself
     
    Artem256 likes this.
  14. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Posts:
    31,781
    Likes Received:
    22,190
    Dislikes Received:
    127
    Location:
    Minnesota
    I really should not watch the Sunday morning political news, 8:30 in the morning and I have already thrown out a MF'er, and earned my first scolding of the day from my wife. She hates that word and it does no good when I say at least I didn't say the C word.
     
    Artem256, GregH and oldnotdead like this.
  15. oldnotdead

    oldnotdead Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2019
    Posts:
    11,039
    Likes Received:
    16,694
    Dislikes Received:
    25
    LOL sounds like me... Also hubby..I hear raunchy mouth much...
    PS... I hate the C word though the term YMOC and YDC is unfortunately used as a blood pressure aid.
     
  16. opossumhunterNC

    opossumhunterNC Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2019
    Posts:
    2,121
    Likes Received:
    3,434
    Dislikes Received:
    5
    I warn all my guests that if they wanna watch or talk politics they better not be a snowflake or a raging liberal - that way at least they had a warning if I have to throw that MF’er out.
     
    Artem256 and Sota like this.
  17. Fix

    Fix Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2016
    Posts:
    9,100
    Likes Received:
    12,386
    Dislikes Received:
    35
    Location:
    Western NY
    I finally understand the saying. "Trumped up charges"
     
  18. opossumhunterNC

    opossumhunterNC Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2019
    Posts:
    2,121
    Likes Received:
    3,434
    Dislikes Received:
    5
    Wait a second.... I thought that the impeachment thing was about Ukraine... how did Romania get dragged in to this?
    upload_2019-11-24_21-0-37.png
     
  19. GregH

    GregH Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2008
    Posts:
    20,775
    Likes Received:
    63,207
    Dislikes Received:
    30
    It sounds like you were fortunate that they were not running a piece on Pelosi or HRC. :biggrin:

    You might have had a string of all the "good" words come out!
     
    Sota likes this.
  20. GregH

    GregH Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2008
    Posts:
    20,775
    Likes Received:
    63,207
    Dislikes Received:
    30

Share This Page