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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Artem256, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    The trojan horse has finally revealed its sinister and well constructed plan 20 years in the making.
     
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    Do other people have the power Trump does? For instance if I post storm the capital my 6 followers don’t do it

    Trump has a responsibility as a leader to tell the truth, he has not. Any other leader acts the same way, whack their account also.


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  3. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    We cant limit free speech.

    Dems control the media. Control Google. Control Apple. We all know what is happening Germ. Suppression.
     
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    Are you saying I can say anything I want here to anyone I want and I cant get booted?
     
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    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    I dont care about President Trump. I care about the equal application of the rules. We all know they arent equally applied based on who controls the media and these giant social media platforms.
     
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    Sounds like your describing our justice system. But I digress.
    Why cant I say anything I want on here to anyone that i want?
     
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    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    Not real sure why you would bring up the justice system when responding to me specifically. I am talking about speech in general trial. Nothing more. It's not equally applied by the left leaning media powerhouses.
     
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    Commie-La Harris saying she wanted the summer riots to continue and dont stop rioting back in the summer ... This is Early In's new VP (she isnt mine and will never be, I disavow her .. ) ... ... her comments start at the 59 second mark ..

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    Because the most obvious place that shows different outcomes for different people, (for a number of reasons but social economic status the biggest). If anyplace should see equal application it's the justice system, but there are times it does work like that.

    So in regards to applying free speech on private platforms I cant see why you or I would think for a minute that everyone is equal on private platform. Isny it conservatives saying that everyone has the right to service who they want and who they dont want in their businesses? The gay wedding cake is over used but a good example. ..


    When you have someone with the influence that the president of the United States has and he inciting people into seditious actions .....I think the owner of that platform just might have moral obligation to not allow it.
     
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    A lot of this got posted on Twitter. People are dead because of what these people incited. There is police officer that isnt going home to his family. The president and others are culpable to some extent. And in would argue that the platforms that they are reaching these people on share in that.


    Below was cut and pasted from another place, its cited.






    18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
    If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

    President Trump and his team (Guiliani, etc) together with other GOP members conspired to oppose by force the authority....

    President Trump amped up his base, including those who were not terribly in touch with reality. The rest of his team pushed them over the edge. Its a fairly common tactic.

    President Trump

    * “We will never give up; we will never concede,”
    * “We will stop the steal. We’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol…We’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones…the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.”
    * "Take back our country"

    Giuliani
    "If we are wrong we will be made fools of, but if we're right a lot of them will go to jail. So let's have trial by combat."

    Don Jr.
    "We're coming for you and we're going to have a good time doing it."

    Lauren Boebart posted on 1/6/2021
    "Today is 1776."

    There are plenty more, i just don't feel like looking them all up...
     
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    Where the hell did Trump say storm the Capitol, and yes I spelled it correctly, and can you please link to the source?

    Obama had the same responsibility, Bush had the same responsibility, Clinton had the same responsibility.... they did not tell the truth either.

    To your second statement, Maxine Watters should have been suspended and banned before Trump took the Oath as well as half of the congressional Democrats, 75% of the mainstream media and probably 60% of the US population.

    Why does it have to be a leader that is so held to the standards you set forth? Why not everyone? The Constitution doe snot apply to select individuals based one power.

    All of that said, I do not support or condone what transpired at the Capitol on Wednesday. I support the gathering, just as I did some of the gatherings across the nation the past 6-8 years. What I do not condone and will always condemn is the senseless violence that partakes after those with true hurt and meaning voice their concerns.

    The sun sets and the agitators come out. It's a given.

    In DC, while the sun had not set the same ensued, a member here, who was there, stated how it transpired. You believe in people who were/are there when it fits your narrative, you ignore it when it does not.

    Whether Trump gave the speech or not, I personally believe he should not have, the plan of Q-Anon and other extremists was already in play. One was seeking to disrupt, the other was set to act within that disruption to disrupt even further.
     
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    Just to note, Germ cannot see my post. Learned that when I ignored others. Do not expect a response from him to me :lol:
     
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    so he's in his cry closet hiding from you ... figures .. :bigcry:
     
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    Doesn't matter, I unignored the others and reading them now. Mainly because Germ peaked my interest with his claims
     
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    cls74 Legendary Woodsman

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    3 members here do not believe you, can you please provide facts with someone who was there and maybe some visual evidence?

    Thanks!

    :lol:

    DOLTS!
     
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    cls74 Legendary Woodsman

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    This post still peaks my curiosity. Choose one, Red pill or Blue pill.

    One shows you what your party seeks, the other the opposite.
     
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    cls74 Legendary Woodsman

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    WOW!!!! Are you a CRACKPOT or what?


    So let me get this straight, someone that tries to infiltrate a FEDERAL INSTITUTION shall be shot on site? You probably realize that by stating Federal you are referring to the United States of America in general correct? Every immigrant trying to seek your everlasting reprieve shall be shot on sight, no questions asked. Let's do it.

    You have a level of libtard that many cannot fathom possessing, enjoy it, embrace it and pleases do not pass it along.
     
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    Orders.

    Let them in, get Trump out.

    I'm telling ya, something isn't right with it.

    Look at a few of these images, I think Babbit was a negligent discharge. I think the breach of the Capitol was allowed to happen.

    Neither of these two images were what killed Babbit, but it shows you how tense things were.

    Your finger should never be in the guard, ever, unless your intent is to destroy.

    Early_in praising Babbit's death is a sick and dysfunctional praise. PERIOD


    finger trigger.jpg

    finerguard2.jpg
     
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