So a question for the Anti-Trumpers on here. A simple yes or no is acceptable, but man(or woman) up and answer. Do you agree with Trump declaring Antifa a Domestic Terror organization?
I dont consider myself anti trump, however I am not shy of being critical of him. So with that in mind I dont feel the start of your question with a false label is necessarily a good footing to build on. However I will answer it anyway. I dont feel Trump or anyone else at this point is able to make a declaration by decree of them as such. However I do think that Antifa most likely has committed acts that should be prosecuted as domestic terrorism. So no I dont agree with a declaration but I would agree with the prosecution under the rule of law. Make sense?
Why? I have cut my hair for the past 20 years, but have wondered why barbers/beauticians have not just worked from home? Work from home was always allowed in every state as far as I know. They could have been making a killing, and I'll refrain from saying they may have benefitted more from the unemployment bonus. While not exactly a tipped employee like a waiter/waitress I'm sure they mad a good amount of their annual income from tips. Hell, they could have done it all tax free if they wished.
So the Donald has your vote, I'll let him know By anti-Trumpers I designate it by those who are most outspoken against him here. I can't get on board with your Antifa stance though, Antifa as a whole stands for a certain vision of their wants. If members within that group feel differently they should remove themselves from the identity and either try for a new vision based on their true beliefs, or find another group to identify with. Antifa as a whole is a failed system and belief world wide, when you bring that to a free country defacto it threatens the very freedoms they stand against. When you force that belief upon the unwilling by means of violence and fear tactics you are no less than terrorizing the masses. You're either in or you're out, and if you're caught sitting on the fence with someone who is in then you suffer the consequences that fall upon you.
That they cannot work from home? Ee had the same thing here. Dog groomers were out of work as well(friend is one) and actually got back to work before human groomers. There was nothing in the order that said they cannot work from home, befuddled me why they did not. I'll be real on it, if I was non essential in a position like that I'd have double dipped. Bring clients in cash under table and collected the unemployment. That said, I still am against the unemployment bonus as it does not incentivise laid off workers to return to work. Made whole sure, but extra no.
Honestly I think you need to reread my answer because either your didnt understand the nuance of it, or you purposely created a strawman argument against my response.
here Trial ... do you agree with the 10 points of action of Antifa ... https://noqreport.com/2020/06/02/la...has-to-die-in-order-for-their-world-to-exist/ it reads like the communist manifesto or out of a nazi hand book .. Great article by the way from the award winning writer Lara Logan ^^
I'll simplify my thought I guess. When I asked the original question, it could have been asked "do you agree with Obama(or whoever did) designating ISIS an international terrorist organization. You can't say, no they are not, but some of their members could be or should be. Either they are, or they are not. Either way, I just hope we'll all be a better society and just possibly, finally come to that common goal once this ordeal is over with. One Minneapolis cop, with a couple sidekicks set this whole thing off. Neither a president, past or present, nor a race made him/them do it. I think the history between the two as security guards on opposing shifts comes into play somewhere.
Trial, once again you lower and reveal yourself to be a benign tumor that I know you to be .. and again you have nothing ... you may try and BS some on here, but you are still the anti-Trumper YOU have always been .... I would say, there are a few of those Antifa tenets that you agree with .. even if you said you dont, I would not believe you and neither should anyone else here .. Antifa is the militant arm of the socialist liberal democrat party.. Democrats try to get Trump out of office because he has shown what criminals the democrats actually are and this country was doing to damn good under him ... the Dems cant have that .... "any means necessary", even if it means destroying American, tht is the Antifa/Democrat creed ... ... smh ..
Your just a low class angry *******, it just oozes out of you. You have spent your sorry life of sixty plus years doing little more than hating and labeling anyone that you dont agree with politically. Do the world a favor and stay on your meds, because you sound a little, ok a lot, unhinged and I worry about your neighbors.
There is nothing for the President to gain by further dividing people. Nice parroting of a Democrat talking point, though. It is an absolute irrefutable fact that whites are more often shot and killed by police than blacks; including unarmed shootings (not all of which are unjustified.) Sorry to burst your bubble. That is a fake narrative meant to cause exactly what is happening on the streets as well as this forum - division, mistrust, and anger. Does that mean there are not racist cops? Nope, too many of those- of all races themselves. Does that mean there are not a-hole cops that like to throw their weight around and get off on power? Nope, too many of those too. There is no public evidence; NONE, that Chauvin is a racist and/or that what he did to Floyd was because of his skin color. None. I am not saying that some won't come to light; but it is dangerous for anyone, ESPECIALLY elected officials and those in public trust to say that it did. And I've even seen plenty of "Republicans" state it publicly as established fact. All it does is add fuel to the fires. We now know, 2 weeks later, that Chauvin and Floyd likely knew each other from security work that both did at a local club. Maybe they have beef? Maybe they were former lovers. The point is- we don't know, and it is criminally irresponsible for politicians and public officials to espouse otherwise. While I largely disagree with the policy; no President has done more for criminal justice reform; especially inasmuch as sentencing reform which was perceived to be discriminatory against blacks; in the past 30 years than President Trump. That's a fact. Another fact is that Trump didn't have a damn thing to do with the death of George Floyd. Minneapolis is a deep-blue city in a blue state. Minneapolis has been under Democrat control; specifically the near-socialist uber-left wing Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party for 45 CONSECUTIVE YEARS (and 56/60 years.) Don't you think for one second; that if that the people who keep voting that party into power gave 2 craps about police reform they would have "done something" by now? All politics is local and all police forces (except in very rare circumstances) are under local control. Not Washington, DC. There is no perfect political or legal system; all have bias because all groups of people have bias; and these systems were created by people. As problems and problem people are identified, they must be reformed or removed from the system. But the system can and does work- provided there is equal application of the law -and- the checks and balances thereto. Trump himself is the victim of the largest criminal conspiracy frame job likely ever attempted - if anyone knows about the unequal application of the law it's Trump. The officer was fired and charged w/in days of the incident. That's pretty fast. There may be additional charges to come on both Chauvin and the other officers. While it doesn't bring the victim back; it is the justice we can provide. The rest is up to God. Every badge-wearer I know is and was sickened at what happened to that man and thinks Chauvin deserves to go to jail for it. I don't know a single LEO that would have stood by and let that happen; but obviously Chauvin had a partner that did; who by the way is not white. But the fact remains that while people are just and right to protest police brutality in all forms; there are agents of chaos who will and are using these unwitting accomplices for cover. ANTIFA...gangsters...loot mobs...dumb suburban kids who've listened to RATM a few too many times. Honestly; it's some Dark Knight Joker-type s4hit. Now...who is the Joker?
Secret service is briefing the Minneapolis police about upcoming visits of Obama and Pence. The department made a statement that they are concerned that a Pence visit may stir up more protests. Are you kidding me, then again many of that mindset feel that the riots in Minneapolis are Trumps fault. It is laughable coming from the Minneapolis police considering one of their own is the responsible party for the whole crap show that happened.
