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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Artem256, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. ImThere

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    Yes. I know. Thank God. We need about 5. Of you have a moderate right you will also need a moderate left. IMHO. I’m waiting for a few like AOC and Bernie to change to a socialist or communist party. Maybe that will even it out on the left.


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    The nutty far left is why the democrats have a 20% approval rating, it is the younger adults who have large student loans who can't afford buying a home they love the socialism, the It's not fair party.
     
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    Yes I’m waiting for a split on that side from the nutty left to the Democrats from prior Vietnam war democrats. Like my dad. He was a democrat but he wouldn’t fall in line with the democrats of today.


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    I despise rinos as much as I do Dems/Socialists/Commies (all one in the same) ...... the rinos are the ones that need to go ...

    as for Musk ... whiny cry baby ... I said watch him, he's not a conservative/repub in any way... holds many dems beliefs ......
     
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    My Mom was a Kennedy democrat, she switched sides when the family business got big. Like a puppy opening its eyes. I worked on a hobby farm as a teenager for a couple the wife was the president of the Minnesota Republican Party, she educated me over lunch and I was there eating lunch in the kitchen when a candidate came to talk to her about running for governor, she didn't ask me to leave and it fascinated me. She also told me about Kennedy.
     
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    Party doesn't matter much wrt running up the debt. Too many entitlements, OPEX costs and interest on existing debt, let alone any candidates pet interests.
     
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    Before we start begging for something that makes sense on the surface, we need to dig into historical voting with a two party system that has a population with basically 5 mini party ideals. Hard and moderate on both sides. Then liberals in the mix that bouce around the moderates on both sides.
    Now in the General elections voting can be all over the place. Usually leaving you with hard party canidates being the ones elected. Before the the era of presidential edict governance began, congress members actually worked with each other. Now Pelosi, Mcaine; " turtle head" and a few others decided they needed their power and parties power to supercede the voters wants and needs. That brought in the Presidential edict governance because Congress became feckless.
    All the above stated , just imagine having a 3 party congress. Personally the thought scares me.
     
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    Seems some liberals think it will be a good idea to disrupt 4th of July parades with protests. It will not end well for them.
     
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    Place marker.....


    Remember when Obamacare was passed in the wee hours of the morning and was even more pages of a bill than this one?

    Speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi defended the vote by saying "You need to pass it to see what's in it" after it's late night passage.

    Stupid is as stupid does, Momma always said.

    Forest Gump moment has met us all. Obamacare will be the worst of the debated happenings.
     
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    I love how Trump supporters, which is actually just USA supporters, are uninformed rubes. When all one needs to do is open their eyes and clean out their ears to see the truth.
    Just one good example
    LGBQ...Blah,blah,blah and trans activists go out rioting and attacking ppl who's opinion they don't like. Then the Dem media machine claim "attacks" on these groups have exploded. Yep we are too stupid to see these cruds out there doing the attacking. I suppose ppl are suppose to be too stupid to protect themselves. We aren't suppose to see a group of ppl have created an absolute sh-t whirlpool and and as they feed this whirlpool they tend to end up falling in their own crap. They then cry fowl
     
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    My parents were dyed-in-the-wool Democrats. Thought FDR sat at the left hand of God. They were upset when I told them I voted Republican. "The Democrats are for the working man." The silence was deafening when I asked what the Democrats have done for me.
     
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    I want a moderate third party based on the platform of abolishing withheld income tax replacing it with a national sales tax. That way everybody pays but they have a choice. That way the leftists can say they are taxing the rich.
     
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    They can't afford to pay off their student loan but can afford a Taylor Swift ticket? I get a chuckle about "affordable housing" which is directly tied to one's income. I recall when I was a kid in the 50s, ones housing cost 25% of your income. Now it's 33%...if you even have the income to afford a house. Locally, one is pressed to find a house under $250K. Hard to find decent house or apartment rental for under $1K. FWIW, my house has tripled in value in 28 years.
     
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    Addressing the third party idea. Look at the countries that have multiple parties. A mess as they scramble to put together a coalition of sort-of like minded people. And no one has a majority but has to lobby to get votes. As one person said about the US- It's not perfect but I'll take it over anything else anyone has come up with.
     
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    Other countries have the national sales tax and do quite well. The more you spend, the more you pay into the coffer.
    If my memory serves me, when the Soviet Union folded and Russia became "independent," they went with a 10% flat income tax. Revenues shot up because people didn't have to cheat on their tax return.
     
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    Happy Independence Day to Patriots who love their country no matter who is president, to the rest piss off.
     
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    Same to you and all our group. We live in a country where we can voice our opinions ,hear others opinions and choose what we agree or disagree with. Given the ability to believe or take it upon ourselves to reasearch and decide from there. GOD BLESS THE USA and those willing to protect her.
     
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    This is worth a view. It will make you mad as hell, then give you hope. Hope, for people are waking up and now alternative media allows us all to see your not the only one angry over this . I've not seen this much truth in a while.


     

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