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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Artem256, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. 0317

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    BULLCRAP ... we are already seeing countries and manf. coming into the US with their BILIONS of dollars... Simple, make the products here and avoid the tariffs ... Auto workers are praising the move, steel workers are praising the move ... manufacturing jobs are increasing, unemployment is DOWN ... I drove by the new Amazon warehouse going in by New Carlisle when I went to p/u my new truck just a few days back, it is YUUUGE, thousands of good American jobs right there ... Go Go DOGE/Go Go Trump... come back to us in 4 years and see where America is ... MAGA ..

    https://www.newsmax.com/finance/streettalk/unemployment-jobs-labor/2025/04/03/id/1205496/
     
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    That above statement, @ germ, has the same impact on me as, climate experts around the world....give us just 12 yrs to turn it around ...how many years and how many scenarios ago?
    The sky is falling, the world is ending , Oh me! Oh my!
    How embarrassing for them, we've entered the start of a La Nina. Higher winds, cooler temps, WET and unfortunately bigger more frequent storms. Yes climate change as it has been from the begining and always will.
    Just wait a bit to retire and you'll be fine.
     
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    People don’t care about feelings anymore, they just want to keep their jobs

    Whirlpool Corp. announces Iowa's largest layoff of 2025 in Amana manufacturing facility See link below
    bit.ly/4hV4S4g


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    So Ford is giving EVERYONE employee pricing the next couple of months. Anyone know what that looks like?
     
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    Oh gee, film is such a bothersome little task master . Just ask Pelosi and Bernie
     
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    The new work force, hhmmmm
    Will these companies seek out to train all the illegals that came in or train the american kids the do not want to go pay to be indoctrinated?
    One last thing, let the tell alls coming, hammer the last nail into the Democratic lying machine.
     
  9. Germ

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    Today should be fun, oil is way down. Which now for American Oil wells we past or coming close to break even number per barrel. So wells in America will start to shut down. Oil companies do pump oil so we can have cheap gas. Hell even that suck ass Jim Cramer has turned against num nuts.

    We all know the cult/lemmings will follow, look companies are investing. Those companies had already decided to invest, nothing to do with num nuts tariffs. Thankfully Rand Paul is trying to stop some of this madness.

    Num nuts can cut the federal employees all he wants, deport as many as he wants, but now he's messing with peoples lively hoods with a plan that will not work.

    What did num nuts former Chief of Staff call him, yes a moron.

    I am going with this guy "The policy may very well fail." JD Vance
     
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    So you are saying It's not fair:sheep:
     
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    Life is not fair, but when this is being caused by bad policy and could be avoid it's a failure, ask about any CEO. It's easy to tell folks to go through some pain, when it's not you.
     
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    wages are up, businesses/mfgers are coming to/back to the US, oil is down, gas is down, the company I'm contracted to is doing great, just got another raise, I have a new 4x4, maybe even going to get a New Elite Ethos (?).. stock markets WILL rebound(always do), life is good, so quit bitchin' Germy.. Go Go DOGE/ MAGA/MAHA
     
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    Do you think when he's proven wrong, barring the commies being able to find a weak spot, he'll come back and admit he's a gullible ----
    Insert what ever adjective you prefer.
     
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    Oh no China is going to hold off our chickens.
    Really FU. It's time all these small farm Americans that are raising egg chicks and selling their eggs locally, even selling home hatched chicks, get your broiler flock built up.
    Time to say bite me to state regulations, take care of your locals eat real meat. Have you actually LOOKED at the chicken you buy in stores? Take a chicken breast in your hands and pull it back. More often than you want to see, is a gross strange soft stringing of flesh. That's not normal ppl.
     
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    even dumocrats agree, lotsa waste and fraud in govt,,, even dumocrats agree we are way to far in debt,,,ONE GUY DOES SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND THE DEMS ARE LIKE CHICKEN LITTLE,,, THE SKY IS FALLING,,,THE SKY IS FALLING C,mon man grow a pair
     
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    I'm cautiously optimistic.

    I don't see (much) Manufacturing coming back to the US, I do think some parts of the economy will get worse before it get better.

    Inflation uptick and higher unemployment may force the Fed to lower rates. This could spur the housing market. It may also encourage M&As, typically a hallmark of the tail of the economic cycle.

    I see the tariffs as a short term bargaining chip, only. A global trade war won't benefit any. China won't bend, others will buy their wares. Vietnam with 1st mover advantage to take some manufacturing business from them. Auto sector is getting creative (Ford offers emp pricing isn't new, Stellantis idling foreign lines, rates falling).

    Opec has said they are gonna pump more, I heard 1 analyst say $40/barrel, yes that will impact some domestic producers and idle new domestic drilling. We will likely import and refine more as we once did. Refill SPR. Lower fuel cost will also make for cheaper shipping...contra bringing manufacturing here. Energy costs so pulled stay relatively low, but we need more production plants anyway...they take time to build...so maybe a move from central production/distribution to federated/small scale...? This would be innovative.

    Factories take time and capital to build. There is somebody somewhere else in the world willing to work for 10-20% of US labor.

    Better government efficiency should be good.

    PS. OTOH Many countries dropping our lowering tariffs could likely spur global consumption and production.
     
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    Pure economics. A Chinese worker gets $500 a month where an American will need at least $500 a week to live on. Yes, know someone who has been to China before.
     
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    For a couple decades India labor was ~1/10 US rates...it's closer to 1/6 now depending on the skills/service.
     
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    If oil falls to 40 the US oil will be decimated, not just a few shut down.

    Permian Basin which is about 4 million a day shuts down
    Willow Project 180,000 a day shuts down
    North Dakota's 1 million a day, shuts down
    New Mexico 1 million a day, shuts down

    We just took 6.1 million barrels a day off our production, now Opec+(Russia and China) have control over the global markets, what do you think will happen? See Covid era and what happen after when most of our rigs shut down.

    If the inflation stays high the FED is not going to cut rates and drive inflation higher. The current Job market is healthy and unemployment remains low.

    Ben Shapiro had the best talk on Tariffs, this is just a cut of the entire show. He actually went through each country and showed why Trump's Tariffs are complete BS

    https://www.mediamatters.org/ben-sh...x-increase-american-consumers-and-it-designed
     

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