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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Artem256, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. KentDorf

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    "when the house is on fire we don't ask about the homeowners race or religion"
    we just don't give a rats - ask the folk in Maui
     
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    watch kamala walz interview tonight, remember this ! the interview is prerecorded and edited, no cackling, no word salads, how many takes to get it right ? Dana bash was handed questions in advance, Dana bash is a self proclaimed liberal !!!!!!! just another cnn **** show
     
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    nope, no reason to watch a prefab Kommie-La fest .... it will be soooo fake... my tv would never survive and why get my blood pressure up ? ... I know all I need to know about those two and those who support them...

    just wait till the LIVE debate, there she cant hide, and Trump will tear her up and show her as she really is ...... all she has is hand waving and 'Joy' ....
     
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    Now if they put out this statement at the beginning I'd watch
    DISCLAIMER:
    We understand our base audience are sheeple that will assume and believe every word we say . To this, the interview will be filled with half truth, out right lies as a gaslightiing exercise. Thank You
     
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    My prediction is that Kammie does much better in a live debate that the righties think (and hope) she is going to do. I have no doubt she failed upward her entire career and is a general moron, but with weeks of practice and a favorable moderation team, she will be fine.

    Trump will continue to exaggerate how "great" and "amazing" everything he and his administration did was, without citing any specific examples or future policy details that would sway people in the middle to voting for him. I keep listening to his speeches and interviews, trying to find some substance in his word salad, but I can't. He NEVER directly answers a question even when asked repeatedly by the interviewer, even when it's a friendly interview with softball questions being asked.

    Here's my example of a typical Trump interview.

    "What do you think about healthcare costs and the broken medical system?"

    "Well let me tell you, our administration was doing great things. Wonderful things. It's a travesty what's happening out there. People are suffering and it's so sad. And we were well on our way to fixing it. But Biden, Crooked Joe and Kamala, they didn't enforce any of the things that our amazing team worked so hard on. And let me tell you, we had some great people working on this. Wonderful people. Probably the best people that have ever worked on it. But Joe and Kamala put an end to the great work we did."

    "Okay great! So how do you plan on combating these issues?"

    "Well we're going to work very hard and get some wonderful people back in there to tackle this problem. And do you know that when I was in office, during my administration, we lowered healthcare costs and increased coverage? We did some really wonderful, amazing things. We did more for healthcare than anyone. Then Biden and Harris just ruined it all. But we're going to change that."

    "Medical debit is the #1 reason for bankruptcy in the US. What can you do as the President to change that?"

    "That's a terrible problem, it really is. It's terrible what the crooked Biden administration has done and what Kamala wants to do. You know, if she's elected that problem is just going to get worse. She just wants to give healthcare to everyone, and pay for abortions and all sorts of terrible things. But we're not going to allow that to happen, are we? No, we've got some amazing people. Wonderful people who are really smart and they're going to work hard on this."

    Me: JUST TELL ME WTF YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO TO HELP FIX THE GD PROBLEM ALREADY!!!!
     
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    Trump is like that former football player that they interview in the pregame show before the superbowl.
    when they are asked a question as to who will win, their answer is
    "you know Jim-Bob - when I played in my 4 Superbowls - you hear that? not one, not two, not three but four superbowls - I'm wearing all of them world championship rings right now - check em out, don't they look great? and the diamonds sparkle in the light and offsets my gold tooth - check it out when I smile!
    Anyway, I remember this one play I did that was the biggest play of the game when I almost caught the ball!"

    lots of me, me, me and not a whole lot else
     
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    If logical and reasoned policy articulation was effective, Republicans would win 65% of the vote. The plurality of Americans are abject morons who operate purely on emotion.

    Politicians know this. Frame an issue in a manner to provoke an emotional response, and repeat it ad nauseum.
     
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    The issue is that this election is going to be won in the margins - the people who actually care about policy. While I agree the majority of our mouth-breathing population is voting red or blue no matter who, the folks in the middle are going to decide this one. And if Donny could get out of his own way for a few months and articulate how he screwed up the first time around, the challenges he faced, and how he plans to combat them this time around, he would take this one home. I wouldn't think that is asking too much, but what the hell do I know anyways.
     
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    Can't deny that to a extent. That said I don't blame him as of late, Harris has stolen every policy he has articulated.
     
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    The people who truly care about policy had their decision made for them when DJT won the primary and RFK bailed.

    Now it's Trump vs. tyrannical Communists. It really is that simple.
     
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    If Trump is elected, will COVID come back?


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    He talks about this somewhat frequently-
    His biggest mistakes were listening to/ picking/ leaving in place swamp rat sabateurs to serve in his administration; the so- called "experts". He was, and he openly admits this, naive to the depth and scope of the deep state corruption.

    He had nearly zero policy problems (main exception being Covid cash which didn't even really play out till after he was gone.) He had major people problems. Now, to a much larger extent, he knows who he can and can't trust.

    If anyone can point out any other major policy blunders, I'm all ears. Was he guilty of over promising and under delivering? Sure, but all politicians are, especially in divided government.

    Kamabla is running from her record. He's running on his record. Why should he have to articulate new policies when his old ones gave us-

    Effectively zero inflation
    Lowest unemployment rate in 50yrs
    No new wars
    Semblance of border security
    Booming economy until covid
    Overturned Roe
    Peace in most of the middle east
    China, Russia, Iran all in check

    And he did all that while being incessantly hounded and sabotaged by traitors.
     
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    Judging by all the maskholes that are suddenly popping up at the grocery store, at least some people think it already has. I was in Costco today and at least half the employees were wearing face diapers.
     
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    No policy problems? Then why did we spend billions helping the farmers out?

    In 2017 when he crashed oil prices and US oil companies lost billions.

    What bills did he pass? I guess you are correct he did not have many issues with his policies because he could not pass any.

    Biden an old dementia man passed more than trump did, that’s not saying much about your wonder boy

    FYI Biden had the lowest unemployment rate.
    Biden also had high inflation, one would have to understand economics to know why and most don’t want to or are to lazy.


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    Here is Germys leg tingler ...

    "Kamala spoke for just over 16 minutes and didn't even address the crime crisis in this nation," the email read. "She spent a mere 3 minutes and 25 seconds talking about the economy and 2 minutes and 36 seconds talking about immigration.

    "Kamala said her values 'have not changed' three separate times. She's still a San Francisco radical," the campaign said, before listing all the issues that Harris avoided:

    • "Kamala's support for ending cash bail for violent criminals.
    • "Kamala's fundraising for the Minnesota Freedom Fund, which freed rioters.
    • "Kamala's tiebreaking vote for American Rescue Plan, which economists say fueled inflation.
    • "Kamala's support for defunding the police.
    • "Kamala's comments comparing policing to slavery.
    • "Kamala's repeated praise of Bidenomics.
    • "Kamala's support for Medicare-for-All, a socialist takeover of our healthcare system.
    • "Kamala's support for closing immigration detention centers and freeing thousands of criminals into American neighborhoods.
    • "Kamala saying we need to start 'from scratch' with ICE [U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement] and comparing ICE officers to the KKK.
    • "Kamala's support for reparations.
    • "Kamala's support or decriminalizing prostitution."
     
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    I honestly don't remember this at all. Maybe you're correct. But even if true it's a complete non-issue to 99% of people. And we always spend billions every year "helping farmers out". They're called subsidies, and they suck.
    Ask the farmers who are left that can't afford diesel, fertilizer, or interest rates anymore who they'd rather have in charge. The rest of them sold out to Blackrock, Bill Gates, and the Chinese.

    See meme above again if you can see through your tears.

    You are confusing executive function and policy with legislative action. 45 signed the tax cut bill, which was a monumental success, then Paul Ryan stabbed him in the back on immigration, (intentionally) lost the House, and 45 was left with no allied legislative power. So he went with ExOs, those of which weren't overturned by the courts were enormously effective.

    CHIPs has been an unmitigated disaster. Most of the money was offshored.
    The 'Inflation Reduction Act' aka 'Bidenomics' has inflation up over 20% since he took office and that coupled with interest rates and housing costs has destroyed the middle class.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/193290/unemployment-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/

    Note, I said DJT gave us the lowest rate (3.7) in 50 years. That is true. IF (big if) the 3.6 rates from 22-23 are correct (they're not- BoL just revised the numbers and over 800k claimed jobs over the past 2 years were a lie) my statement is still true.

    See above. Dems caused most of it. And he signed the bill.
     
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