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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Artem256, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. 0317

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    some just do not understand the threats to America and are better off with their heads buried (where ever they are buried) .... I make it a point to understand history, even that of our enemies and the threats that undermine this country. Socialism/Marxism and Communism are actual and real threats .... those ILLEGALS coming across the border are REAL THREATS in oh so many ways .... If a foreigner wants to live here, they must assimilate to America and our values, and go thru INS and do it LEGALLY ... this influx of ILLEGALS is meant to destroy our healthcare systems, education systems and welfare system and make democrat/socialist voters out of em .... there is nothing I just wrote that is 'tin foil' ...
     
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    You called them "people", nice job. See, it really wasn't that hard.
     
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    I think that the liberals lack of action at the border has people very frustrated about the illegal immigrants. I say we compromise and call them parasites. They are sucking the life out of some cities. Chicago and NYC are overwhelmed, they get called far worse than cockroaches in Chicago. I get it the quest for a better life, but I am sorry bringing a child on the trip is child endangerment. Notice the politicians and media do not call them what they are anymore.
     
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    WTF?

     
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    You and I would do the same for our children if we were faced with the options those father's are faced with. Your kid with no bed to sleep in and no clean water to bathe in and no medical care and no food is still your kid, and desperate times call for desperate measures. It would be child endangerment to leave them in an environment that insures their demise. Instead of sending Billions to a war in Ukraine, we could do a lot better for the children of this globe. But, those kids don't have political connections and they certainly don't have access to any oil or mineral reserves. They definitely don't have a Grandfather with a nice boat to take them fishing on the weekends. I don't think that really makes them parasites.
     
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    OH MAN! WE all looked alike back then...lol
     
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    I'm just wonder here , do you have some sort of crystal ball or special sight? See I ask this because what I have seen, actually seen, thanks to real reporters with cameras are people with kids that are well dressed carrying phones. REPORTEDLY WITHOUT DISPUTE, having to pay hundreds / thousands to travel here to Cartels. I'm also spying with my little eye, some dang hefty men, woman and children in those lines and departing from those buses. I've heard in interviews from these people that American food and housing is not up to their standards. Now let's just dump the kids out of this senerio and go straight for the drone footage of nothing but young men crossing by the thousands. Tell me where are all these sad poor, deprived people getting all the money for the trip? Seeing they had , to your reporting ,nothing to start with. Just wondering
     
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    When they come over the border illegally they are demanding assistance, we have homeless veterans that can't get decent medical at the VA hospitals, that offends me.
     
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    I am also all for not funding proxy wars and would rather see the resources used to seal the border. Cities are full they can not house and feed, it is coming to the point other resources are not available to tax paying citizens, look at NY?
     
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    The Biden administration has turned a blind eye to the border and has prevented Texas from funneling crossings yet has done noting to help sanctuary cities fund housing, food programs cities are overwhelmed and Biden does nothing about the problem he created.
     
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    yea, I mis-spoke, should have called 'em locusts, as they are a plague on this country ...
     
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    If a single mother a citizen of the US exposed her children to the same conditions she could easily loose custody.
     
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    how many millions of ILLEGALS is it now that have invaded this country ... how many thousands of crimes have been committed by many of these, not to mention the illegality of crossing into this country itself without going thru the proper channels ... I'm waiting for the next 911 to drop, and odds are it will be by terrorists who came across the southern border with the rest of the ILLEGALS ...
     
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    I know this is old but other than being a bit too long funny and spot on
    TheUnitedSpot
    This wasn't suppose to happen
    I can't link from this
     
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    I have had first hand contact with families here that risked everything to make a better life and give their small children a chance to have a life. I have personally spent time with them. I have seen the fathers working here to save enough to pay the coyote's to bring their children and wives. Not everyone crossing the boarder is a "cockroach" or "parasite". Some are very decent and hard working people just like us with zero chance to succeed in countries with the very leadership style that we all here are so relentlessly fighting to avoid. They don't have that luxury. In fact, they don't have much of anything but a desire to improve their lot in life. If the U.S. became a socialist cesspool, we would do whatever it takes to escape it. It's a two way street.

    We used to take our kids to some of these impoverished areas and do some "mission" work. We took school supplies to classrooms that did not only have zero books, but had no pencils or paper. We took them shoes and clothes etc. They were not roaches, they were a product of a failed government. It was a powerful lesson for our boys. They, unlike some here, have compassion and empathy for those that have no control over their environment. They grew into adults that I am proud of and they don't make blanket statements about any class of people.

    My experience is first hand. What I have seen, I have actually seen and been there. I don't get my intel from a newsreel or a "real" reporter with a real camera.

    Again, we need a secure boarder and a vetted process for legal immigration. But, not everyone crossing the boarder is less than human. The folks that push that rhetoric sound simpleminded and are the reason that Conservatives tend to be classed as redneck gun toting simpletons. Because quite frankly, some are, and they seem to be the ones with the biggest mouths. Being loudest, does not make you the smartest.
     
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    You are very loud.
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    Hey that all fine, but what we have at the border is not contained, cities are over whelmed. Also not all the people coming over are interested in what the missioners have to stay
     
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    For one thing NOT ONCE DID I type they were cockroaches. Though many are parasites. So your saying you have delt with them Here in the U.S.A.? I find it I interesting they are coming from EVERY COUNTRY ACROSS THE WORLD. Now are you saying EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD,EXCEPT THE USA ...YET, is a third world country with governments impoverishing their citizens?
    Do you think people doing things like ,entering a country against it's laws would not embellish the story they've been cued to tell to garner sympathy? I'm not a redneck, that said, I'm certainly not a nieve rube either.
    I am native American and 2 Gen Irish also English immigrant. All families came in legally. Landed in NYC and were treated worse by all, than blks were at the time. No money but they entered legally, they worked hard to become legal. They learned and embraced the language and social norms. Worked hard at NYC's worst jobs and DID NOT EXPECT ANY OTHER CITIZEN TO GIVE THEM ANY
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    I will grant some this, They were fools chasing an "easy " pot of gold sold to them by handlers. I have no doubt that once they got here they became impoverished. I also have zero empathy for any person thinking they are owed a better life they did not honestly earn.
    Perhaps more American citizens should spend their time talking to and helping the men, woman and children of all our disabled veterans. The people that gave their flesh, minds,and lives to help keep the rest of us secure. You'll find many of them on the street or in conditions worse than usual, due to illegals displacing them.
     
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    Yes, I have dealt with them HERE in the USA, and abroad. First hand. They are people.

    As for the rest of your rant, I have no idea where you got some of that, but you certainly did take some liberties with putting words in my mouth. That was borderline psychotic.
     

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