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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Artem256, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. Bone Head Hunter

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    Just an observation... And a question.

    Some folks have to be right no matter who's agenda they follow.

    When a tree falls in the forrest is it heard by a deaf man a standing near it?
     
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    I don’t normally comment on this thread because it quite honestly is a waste of time but to start accusations or questions as you put it, with absolutely no knowledge of the fact is irresponsible at best. Using a news source such as foxnews which is just as sensationalized as cnn or nbc from a reporter who probably has little to no information means we don’t know much. The aircraft could have had a jammed aileron, lost hydraulics, etc etc. all would lead to the pilot having no ability to change AC course. I work with these pilots on a regular basis. Some of the most highly intelligent ppl mixed with coordination skills that are literally incredible. Most of them lean politically to the right. Not as far right as many here but that’s ok bc it’s a free country

    I have served under bush, Obama, trump and Biden. I have arguably been more involved with strategic level missions than most and can tell you this. all politicians suck. None are your friends. Both sides suck. They are in it for themselves. To think otherwise is foolish. The f35 has its faults but it is a gen5 aircraft that only the most capable can fly. What you allude to in the military is mostly at the general admittance level. Let’s be honest, it’s not like republicans were putting geniuses in The military. There is a reason there is a high veteran homelessness situation. The military kicked the can down the road for that individual. Some of the brightest people I know are in the military. Some of the most incredibly stupid people are in the military. I will tell you that to fly at that level takes brains. Takes ability. To insinuate otherwise is laughable at best.

    There. I am done on this thread. Haha


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    Put words in my mouth ,that's OK Get butt hurt because I question things, fine .
    Now go do a bit of research on crashes for US military across the world since 2021. That's what I did.
     
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    costs $$ millions to train a pilot, as for people on the ground where the plane crashes? meh, there's plenty of them
     
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    Y'all see the three defendants in the Michigan governor kidnapping plot case were found NOT GUILTY the other day? Truly surprised and happy with the outcome. Now to investigate the FBI coercion in the event, but we all know nothing will happen to those involved. The FBI has been weaponized for political gain.
     
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    Lol ...yet say the wrong thing or refuse a shot and they dropped their valuable assets like hot potatoes. To make room for ???

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    one would think hard on, it cost them this or that so they wouldn’t.....blah, blah blah, after the Afganistan with draw
     
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    Thanks for your service. I agree with most of that. There is mental acuity and mental stability. The latter does not nessasarily remain at optimum levels, with accuity. Then as you mention your service, well age pops to mind.... generational
     
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    Interesting short video on China

     
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    One of those FBI agents was my hockey coach when I was about 10 years old.
     
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    3 acquitted and 9 either found guilty or confessed.

    What was the political gain?

    Did you actually follow the case or just spew what healdline news told you to?

    “Molitor, 39, and William Null, 41, testified in their own defense, admitting they had attended gun drills and taken rides to see Whitmer's property. Molitor was in a pickup truck with Fox and had recorded a brief video of the house.”

    They got smart and broke away, so where was the conspiracy? They admitted to have taken part, you think they were on a sight seeing tour of her place?

    Jesus stop looking at left and right, just look at the facts.


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    Germ is so smart.......

    Just ask him......

    He'll tell you
     
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    They were coerced to do the entire thing by undercover FBI agents. It's borderline entrapment, whether or not you can prove they would have done it without coercion is a different story but they were coerced. The federal government has been after these militia groups for a while now. They saw an opportunity and took it. BTW I'm not right or left, I'm very much libertarian.
     
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    To be specific, there were three FBI informants and two undercover FBI agents who coerced the entire plot.
     
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    Yes they were coerced, I bet right after they got caught.


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    Do you have any proof of this, if you’re being specific, let’s have the facts


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    Is that from wiki links?

    FYI if someone states to you “ hey let’s kidnapped the gov,” and you say yes, well that’s stupidity.

    FYI cops/fbi are allowed to lie, if they were that stupid then the fbi did us a favor.


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