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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Artem256, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. Sota

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    Problem is they did not burn it hot enough to oxidize and burn off the plastic compound.
     
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    Apparent it wasn't just the chemicals dumped and lit.
    Supposedly there were also tankers of oil they burned as well
     
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    Why is there no mention of a go fund me for the towns people to pay for independent testing, hotel or rentals off site.
     
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    The railroad company should relocate every last one the townspeople until its fully clean.
     
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    I am invited to icefish tonight, the local rep that did not respond to my e-mail will be there. They need my auger to get the holes drilled and I will be socialable but not sticking around long enough to allow the conversation turn to donating.
     
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    Comparing playing a sport to people getting murdered, okay

    We state the issue is mental illness, hey let's try and keep guns out of the mentally ill, no we can't do that it's their right, okay then what?

    There is no perfect solution, but we have to try and do what we can. Either we can do something now, I am telling you if we wait my daughters generation will handle this, and it won't be pretty.

    How mentally ill does a person need to be before they get flagged? What's your line?
     
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    This is us in a nutshell

    Look some mentally ill person shot up a school, church, or insert your public place.

    We need to keep the guns out of the mentally ill, Americans responded, umm no.

    We need to treat the mentally ill, Americans responded, yeah we are not going to do that either.

    What we will do is have t-shirts made with <insert name here> strong, will change the icon on our social media with <insert name here> strong, and send our thoughts and prayers.

    The above is all you get, excuses us why we stick our heads collectively back in the sand, and god bless America.

    My hope is none of you have to experience this in your life, my daughter with a 3.9 GPA is set to graduate in May. Her classes are all in Berkly Hall, she was not going back to that hall, thankful MSU moved the classes.
     
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    That is true, thus said there is no way they are about to do that unless forced to. There is no chance our current gov. Will attempt to force them and legal avenues are years off.
     
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    Riley Gaines, look her up she is doing some fantastic work. Kudos to her for standing up for what's right and actually doing something about it.
     
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    I am comparing government controls that always gets out of control. If a high-school basketball player took covid home to grandpa, is it murder? Did your efforts cause deaths? It certainly did in our town. Possibly, but it was worth the risk to allow the kids to play right? Plenty of liberals were calling non-mask wearers murderers. If someone has a mental illness and wants to kill people, they will kill people. There are as many ways to kill people as there are psychos to do it. There are far more effective ways to kill mass amounts of people other than using guns. Felons are not allowed to own firearms. How is that working out? Not allowing someone to buy a gun from a gun shop is a minor inconvenience at best.

    Where you and I agree is that we do far too little in the U.S. to provide services to those in need. That system is broken. I served on a hospital board for several years and saw the dysfunction first hand. It is extremely frustrating to see the lack of resources. But, laws don't fix that.
     
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    No here's the nut shell liberals stopped the treatment of the mentally ill
    Liberals stopped the treatment of drug addicts
    Liberals are in the process of stopping the confinement of criminals.
    They then whine that guns are the problem. No Liberals are the problem
    Now don't cry to me about your safe daughter because I lived through gun violence and murder. A murder planned that Liberals allowed to be executed after advanced DETAILED warnings
     
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    No that's stupidity, I get what you're comparing, but it is apples to oranges as one could have prevented grandpa from getting covid by just staying away as we did. We took the risk and planned accordingly, really not that hard. As grandparents were not allowed over.

    Family/friend member calls police/hospital about a concern of a person, police check it out and recommend they see a doctor. Doctor exams person and feels they are a harm to themselves or others. What is the next allowable step for you?
     
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    We used to institutionalize mentally ill...turns out, they still have rights. Damn constitution.
     
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    Well as normal someone tweeted a lie and then you posted a lie, he bought the guns legally in 2021 and was not a felon. A group of parents is organizing to see what actions we can take on that DA.

     
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    From the NTSB about 'mistruths' being spread ...

    "Anyone speculating about what happened, didn't happen, or should've happened is misleading a suffering community – PLEASE STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION," she said, citing the safety rule passed under former President Barack Obama that made it a requirement for trains carrying hazardous flammable materials to have electronically controlled pneumatic (ECP) brakes.

    Homendy said statements that the brake rule, if implemented, would've prevented this derailment are FALSE .

    "The ECP braking rule would've applied ONLY to HIGH HAZARD FLAMMABLE TRAINS," she tweeted.

    "The train that derailed in East Palestine was a MIXED FREIGHT TRAIN containing only 3 placarded Class 3 flammable liquids cars. This means even if the rule had gone into effect, this train wouldn't have had ECP brakes."
     
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    he WOULD HAVE BEEN A FELON, if the Soros's elected prosecutor would not have plea bargained down the charge to a misdemeanor.... this is fact ....
     
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