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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Artem256, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. Germ

    Germ Legendary Woodsman

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    Go ask the socialist at all the major car companies

    Musk is a socialist?
    CEO of Ford?
    CEO of GM?

    Right those guys hate making money


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    Yes it does and it is more efficient than if I turned the temp up when I was not home and turned it down when I got home, thus creating more demand. You are not even good at trying to be contrary and being wrong claiming that you are right.
     
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    That is what he wants. He wants something to happen to prove it...even if the FBI has to stage it. He wants an excuse to literally take over State election polling places, to " secure " them.
     
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    Ask your friends (well maybe not your friends) if they want an electric car. Ask any truly informed person if electric cars make sense.
     
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    Not today for some, 15-20 years from now will be a different story.


    For me no car makes sense and I sold mine. Because I am a remote worker. My wife will be ordering the Ford Mustang EV when they are a available because it makes sense for her.

    Dan, Mike and Matt all bought EV’s

    Dan model S
    Mike Polestar
    Matt mini copper 150 mile range.

    Go ask any executive at major car company and ask if they are being forced. I am having lunch with the former number 3 at ford, my wife’s god father.
    , will see what he says.


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    Get to rural america ask some questions, ask farmers how electric combines, tractors, field trucks would work for them. Oh sure rural america not many people there. Don't talk with your mouth full of food that comes from rural america. Urban areas are the cancer that tries to dictate to the rest of the country. We have different needs and values and do not need citidiots dictating what we drive and what we think.
     
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    And very high costs when they break or wear. 20k+ for new batteries...life span is what 5-7 yrs when people now are holding cars for longer (avg age 12 yrs+)...

    Moving to all electric vehicles + many new data centers across the country will require double or more electrical generation. Current grid likely requires upfit for capacity transmission and charging. Homes don't seem to be being built in my area with charging vehicles in plan...a lot of cost there, yet I just don't see new power plants coming on line. Those data centers also require a LOT of water...just doesn't fit with the eco narrative. Data centers are already being delayed as utilities can't get them power.

    Yeah no.
     
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    Today they won’t work, but that does not mean tomorrow they won’t. It’s called progresss.

    Being I actually own a farm. Do you own a farm?


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    Sota, when I was a kid we plowed a field, then disc the field and then planted.

    Then no till planters came along, we fond a better way. Every year now Delmer will chisel plow our fields and then plant. Way less use of tractor and fuel.

    Guess what innovation and a market will find a better way.

    My wife does not like chemicals on our peach tree, we fond a way to make it work, best year ever for peaches.

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    G ZUZ who woke up the troll. If possible can someone take him home to his farm (it's a peach tree) so he can hunt( oh wait he doesn't). Take the high Rd he loves it

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    Ask your FiL why Ford raised the price of the Mustang MachE $8000 the same week Uncle Sugar started giving $7500 tax credits for EVs...

    Oh wait, don't bother.
     
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    :jaw: Oh the horror, he's our uncle, try and keep up. He'll say "ford likes to make money"
     
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    I have family that works directly in the ag industry for their jobs, not hobby farms. Show me any electric vehicle that can operate 24 hours a day for weeks at a time combining grain, there isn't and the technology to do it does not exist, know what that is called a fantasy, a tree hugging dirt worshippers wet dream.
     
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    Hey Einstein we are not there yet, no one is mandating that today, relax and enjoy the start of college football:lmao:
     
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    Based on the presidents speech last night, I am going to drive over to bass pro and buy a high capacity assault 12 gauge and couple boxes of buck shot. It will be my FJB home defense weapon. Went and bought a winchester Sxp Extreme Defender and a box of XX buckshot. Say hello to my new little friend.
     
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    Einstein, that's rich mr willful ignorance. Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars.
     
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    Good, got'em tiger
     
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    Read about this family, they have had issues, and guess what, they are not a bunch of snowflakes and they work through them. I started to follow them to see what they are doing and how. It's not hard, but it is different. Because I know folks won't watch because new ideas and ways of doing things are the devil, here are some notes.

    • They have an f-150 Lighting now also
    • Extended range battery of about 150 miles when towing a 30ft Airstream
    • Instead of buying groceries at the start of their trip. They do it at their first stop to charge if going longer than 150 miles
    • They can hook up and charge at any campground once they arrive.
    • They carry a gas generator with them, I know OMG the horror. It's actually a smart move for today. One I did not think of.
    They make it work, pretty fun to watch.




    https://www.allelectricfamily.com/
     
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    I think it's hysterical that you call it a 'market' when the only reason it exists outside of a niche is via excessive regulation, taxation, and subsidization.

    It's not a market, it's a racket. Your former governor, our current Sec. Of Energy, planned all this years ago-



    Make gas so expensive the peons are forced into mass transit and EVs. Read up on Coltura and their network.
     
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    Keep toting the nonsense troll. Go to any small town and you will find cars of all makes and models and go ahead and tell any of them ( that have 1-6k invested in their vehicle) that their next car should be 70k. You're a joke. As is your rhetoric.

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