Political venting

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  1. Artem256

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    I didn't see one, some in other threads mentioned creating one. So here’s the free for all politics venting thread. To help free up other threads.

    Ill start by saying that it is disgusting how after a tragedy like a shooting, the liberals dont even wait for the bodies to get to room temperature before starting in on their constitutional infringements. All the while supporting the murder of unborn babies.
     
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    700,000 last year and what is more preventable a mass shooting or pregnancy?
     
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    I laughed at this harder than I should have
     
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    Thank you for creating this thread.

    The rant thread and every other thread in the water cooler is constant political back and forth between 4 or 5 people.

    *insert beating horse to death .gif here*


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    Most welcome! Heh I love a good political argument :evilgrin:
     
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    I'm in the middle as far as politics go.

    I'm not a republican because I support a woman's right to choose, (Who the F am I to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body? I know it's not the baby's fault, but it the baby is the result of rape or incest why should the woman have to suffer and be reminded every day of her life of the crimes committed against her? What if it were your daughter who was raped or your brother inlaw had sex with her? What if your wife was raped? You would love that child? Give me a break.)

    I'm not a democrat because I support the 2nd amendment. (Guns don't kill people, people kill people. removing guns from society will not stop the mass killings.)
     
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    Most folks, I think, are middle of the road, me included. Common sense is seriously missing in all media platforms and has been replaced by passionate digging in on talking points. I can have a debate and see other points of view...but I have given up talking about politics seriously with strangers. I cant change minds or have have the motivation to waste time on it. That's why I dont engage on the rant thread for the most part. Damn folks need to work together and compromise in government. I bet something good would come of it, but I ain't holding my breath these days. I'm just trying to hold out to September 14th. Lol.

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    it's not "her body." It's the baby's body. A person with unique DNA, separate from the mother's; unlike any other in the world.
    And that's science speaking; not religion.

    And philosophically, we make laws restricting what people can do to their bodies all the time (ie drug laws.) Even from the Libertarian in me; say we eliminate drug laws and I can do with "my body" whatever I want- that right still ends when it impedes or negatively affects the life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of another life.

    Victims of all crimes have to live with the memories and consequences of the perpetrator. It's tragic but true.
    The mother doesn't have to keep the child. There are thousands of good people waiting to adopt.

    I am friends with a couple that cannot have children. They have 3 adopted now; one of whom was conceived after rape. That little girl is loved more than you could ever imagine, and she's a sweet kid. The world is a better place with her here.
     
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    You are not changing my mind, and I'm not changing your mind.
     
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    For what it's worth, politics and those serving ain't what it should be.
    It's nothing more than a battlefield.
    As of now, I'll never vote D, but I do ( but damn near puke) when voting R.
     
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    maybe not. But minds can change; I used to be pro-choice from the Libertarian perspective. Then I realized that the most defenseless of us deserve protection.
     
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    Except its not her body, its a living human, which is its own entity. No matter how it came to be. Allowing the child to be murdered is downright sick. Give me a break on justifying murder. The only exception id ever by a razor’s edge support such a barbaric practice is if the mother’s life is in danger of carrying out the pregancy, and that is only if all other methods are not possible.
     
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    What percentage of abortions performed are because of rape, or deformity? Good luck finding those numbers.
     
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    It's out there, can't remember but saw it other day. Pretty sure it was less than 10%

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    I'm with you on the exceptions for rape and incest. Limiting abortions because they are too often used as a contraceptive is one thing but telling a woman who was raped that she has to carry a resulting baby is barbaric IMHO. No it wasn't the childs fault but pregnancy takes a toll on a woman and I think that circumstance should give the woman's choice priority over a short term fetus. Now if she waits until late term, I may have a different opinion, at that point she's pretty much given up the argument of avoiding the cost of carrying it to full term on her body and mind.
     
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    I’m not for abortion as means of birth control, I’m for it in cases of rape and incest.
    Call it murder, call it whatever you want.






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    I'm pro very very very late term abortions... In fact there is a bunch of ppl I wish we could apply it to
     
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    answer me this- it's a woman's right to choose what she does with her body, right?
    What about laws
    forgetting the morality for a second; if you were to make those exceptions I predict you'd have a MASSIVE increase in the amount of reported rapes committed by "masked men" with no identifiable features.

    Then what are they going to do; DNA test all the fetuses? you know how many innocent men would be implicated?
     
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