If you have to show proper identification to prove you are legally in America to get a job, why is the AG and so many democrats raising a stink about having to prove who you are to vote?
Because dems pander to the minorities and illegal aliens (such as Obummer did yesterday with food stamps and Mexico) and they hope to get the votes of those not eligible to vote legally. Voter ID rains on that parade by doing more to ensure that a voter is who he says he is and that the person is not only a US citizen but an actual resident of the municipality he is voting in. It seems Republicans favor voter ID to ensure integrity of the voting process and the Dems don’t want voter ID for the reasons I mention above. They pretend its for other reasons but everybody knows their real motivation. Some here actually fall for the Dem rhetoric and may even expose themselves here soon by objecting to this post. I can even guess who they might be.
I actually think it's a bit different. Many of those voting for the left are in suburban environments or lower income brackets and will depend on public transportation, not needing a drivers licenses. Those without drivers licenses will likely not have other forms of photo ID. It's a significant portion of the left's vote, and they don't want to overcomplicate the process for that key demographic they depend on.
Rancid, please post the youtube video of the fella voting under AG Holder's name so that we may end this thread.
I would rather have all the apologists that I described above (and predicted would show up to pretend voter ID is objected to by the Dems for other reasons than the real reasons) expose themselves first. It is good to who they are. I’ve long held an interest in people that live in denial or otherwise want to pretend.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/04/09/Okeefe-Holder Here, LOL I have seen it. Today voter fraud is a non factor and the poster ask why, I gave an example. I guess some love Goverment in their business Did the guy actually vote? Because if he did that's against the law. We have laws about voter fraud, I guess some just want more laws and government intrusion, nice
No, he did not vote. In fact, if you watch it he stated to the guy working at the poll, "I will be back faster than you can say furious". Just goes to show how easy voter fraud is and can be. I know you Dems are denial over it, but it is what it is. Government intrusion???? Come on! We are basically just asking for you to show your ID. How intruding is that. I just had to show my ID yesterday to make a purchase with my credit card. Oh, the humanity!!!!
Are their currently laws now on the books about voter fraud? Is it currently illegal? Is there a huge problem with it in the past? Have we uncovered the system being cheated? If so then I agree we need to do something. Yes social conservatives love intrusive government.
As I stated, (and are seeing and will more of)the left will go to great lengths to change the subject and even be so bold as to claim those in favor of voter ID are bad or in the wrong or un-American or are big government or a host of distractions to take the focus off the real reason the left doesn’t not want voter accountability and integrity. Its an interesting case study in those so attached to the left and the mantra.
Not big government, intrusive government. T I see this just like current gun laws, we up hold the current laws, and when someone breaks them we inact new laws. Which makes it a pain for those of us who want to buy a gun legally. We pass voter ID law, great! How long before those really want to commit fraud do so with fake id's? It's not that hard to fool the SR citeszens running the booths where I live. If enforcing current laws are not working, let's fix it. Until then let's call this what it is, a bunch of social conservative white old men not wanting to get their arse handed to them again by Obama.
For the record, I'm 110% in favor of requiring government photo ID to vote, and I don't appreciate being painted as one that lives in denial. I'm about as conservative if it comes with most things out there, so you are barking up the wrong tree. If I need to show photo ID to get a job, board a plane, purchase a handgun, or buy beer.....they can do the same to vote. With that said, I believe the low income/urban vote that heavily leans left is a MUCH more impactful group for the left than illegals voting, and since so many of them will rely on public transportation.....many of them won't have the required ID unless they specifically go out and get one. I believe this group is MUCH bigger than illegals that may try to illegally vote, and it's the much bigger interest of Democrats to ensure they get that critical urban/low income vote they rely on so much. I don't particularly care if it makes the process a bit more complicated for that group though, it's the only way to make sure we have the right people voting (meaning eligible to vote, not illegals) and as a society we require photo ID for a lot of things significantly less important than this. Even if a tenth of a percent of the voting population is illegals, or people not eligible.......that's too much and IMHO we need to protect the integrity of that process even if it inconveniences a group that tends to lean one way or the other. If people are too lazy to get a photo ID so they can vote, that that's their problem.
Of course it's a move by the right to not lose. But is it a wrong move to not want to lose to ILLEGAL votes? I love how people say its a non issue, how the heck can we know if it's an issue or not?
I laughed. Anyways, if you watch the video you can clearly see how easy it was to walk in there and shout out anyones name and address and vote. Do I think the current voting system is broke? Yes, but it probably worked in the 1800's. I have no reason not to prove who I am when I vote and neither should anyone unless they are all for voter fraud.
http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1633_8716-178123--,00.html Ha we already have it, I thought we did. TEmbry was there a sting where we caught all these illegals voting? Here's the deal and it's common sense, if you were an illegal would you march into a voting precinct and risk being caught and deported for a vote? It's a scare tactic plane and simple. If my state were to pass this kind of law, I would want to know cost and what are we going to do when the cheats figure out how to beat this law. Has anyone asked are we currently enforcing the current laws?
Oh my Gosh!! Even the democratic state of Michigan thinks its a great idea to show you ID to vote. You think Holder will stop dragging Texas through the mud now?
I believe it's because the type of people that have never gotten off their arse the get a DL are the same that are on government handouts and they vote for democrates because democrates really just want their vote. I think if you not involved enough in the country to own a picture ID you really shouldn't be able to vote. Back in the day you couldn't vote unless you owned property.
