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Please explain the confederate flag loyalty to me

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  1. fletch920

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    North or South.........the people that I have personally met that fly the confederate flag in any way, shape, or fashion, have mostly been from the shallow end of the pool. Just my personal experience and observation.

    Perpetuating the dehumanization of a specific race by flying the colors that defined that action is beyond pompous.
     
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    It's pretty easy to correlate these results to poverty level, education level and even ethnic demographics if one so chooses.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/then...mographics-by-state-with-u-s-figures-20130307
     
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    Careful with the IQ points argument Fletch. Lower group average IQs was used as a reason for Eugenics by the left. It's an ideology embraced by racists.
     
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    In a way, I guess it is a North/South thing to most. It is totally two different people. Again, I don't fly or own a rebel flag, never had any use for a battle flag I guess...lol. Most Northern people look at Southern people as backwards, stupid, uneducated, and talk funny. Southerners look at Northern people the same way,Talk funny, rude, unfriendly. This NOT directed at anyone on here either. Just stating what I have seen. Most people from the South are proud of being from here and the Country. Most are Conservative type people. My personal opinion on the flag....for some to see a battle flag as racist is crazy. I mean look of pics of the moron KKK, you'll find just as many pics of those idiots with US as the Rebel Flag.

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    That's because racists tend to be low IQ AND poor. That's why they embrace the ideology, they don't know better. lol

    I'm not inferring that we should kill the idiots. Just pointing out that it takes a village of them to support something like the confederate flag or the premise that brought it into being. You can call it a symbol of whatever you desire. But it came about because the South did not want to be told how to run their agricultural "labor pool".
     
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    Missing the point entirely. Multiple studies, like it or not, link certain races with IQ levels. It is the liberal 'elite' who pushed for Eugenics.

    Some backwoods redneck may wave a rebel flag because he's racist but the folks killing the most blacks are the social progressives. The urban, educated and supposedly enlightened people.
     
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    I was responding a bit "tongue-in-cheek". But, please go on. The last I knew, the number one cause of death of the black man was murder. Well over 90% of those killings by another black man. Social progressives??
     
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    Social progressive policy. Places like inner-city Chicago are called 'democratic plantations' by the Democratic leaders for a reason.

    Look up Margaret Sanger and her legacy of Eugenics. (A person who Hillary said she admired)
     
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    In my 44 years on this planet I've seen a lot of wealthy educated white people who were VERY racist, the difference is they hide it better than the poor uneducated folks do.
    My experience with people that fly the stars and bars is that for most of them, it has nothing to do with being racist it has more to do with traditions and heritage of the south. And its mostly kids.
     
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    I cannot fathom the fact that you honestly feel most racists are low IQ'd and poor. Please elaborate to where you came up with that idea.
     
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    Personal experience. Not an idea that I came up with. An observation. Especially in the North. It takes a small mind to think that one race is any better than another. And, low intelligence normally equates to poor.
     
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    I'm not sure where you are making the leap to Eugenics and Social Progressives from my post. I am familiar with the topic, but again, I'm not sure how you read my post to be in support or correlation of any such theory. I'm not an advocate. My only stretch was to point out that the regions that tend to still show support for what was behind the advent of the confederate flag are always at the very bottom of the list when it comes to education and economics with no indication of change.
     
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    Your pretty much spot on with what I See here in the South. Mostly a lot kids is where you'll see it. Even the blacks kids... I've seen a lot of that as well. Most of the people I have met don't associate the Rebel Battle Flag with hate or racism. They associate it with Southern pride, being a country boy. I can probably see where Northerners see it as that though, not being from the South.

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    I am thinking Fletch might have scored lower than most on his IQ test. :tu:
     
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    Fletch, I'll type slower.. ;)

    You brought up IQ as a way to paint an entire group of people as inferior.

    I responded that such reasoning is also what racists have done.

    You then said it's because racists are poor and dumb.

    To which I attempted to point out the fact that the biggest and most dangerous group of racists were neither poor nor uneducated. They were/are called Democrats. I then attempted to show my work via examples of democratic social progressives and their policies.

    Capiche?
     
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    I'm down in southern virginia at the beach. The Confederate flags are out in full force today.
     
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    I qualified for Mensa. You?

    Feel free to look it up. lol
     
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    I personally do not have a problem with the confederate flag, but I do not think flying ot on state Capitol buildings is appropriate( did I really just type that) I do not want to see any flag other than the stars and stripes flying anywhere, but that is just me. By the way, I had family lineage that Fought against the south, so if anyone could be offended by it I would say it would be people whose family sacrificd to hold the USA together.
     
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    Thanks for typing slower. But, I think I had it. lol

    My point was that the average person that is flying a confederate flag is neither Democrat nor rich. They are poor, ignorant, hicks that probably don't have a clue where the flag even came from and likely don't even vote. They think chicks with Daisy Dukes will think they look cool.

    I understand the fact that the Democrat party is making a "slave" class of citizens that are socially and economically dependent on their government. And the Democrats really don't care what skin color votes for them. But, I thought the Democrat party always claimed to be poor??? lol

    Hitler was also a wealthy racist. My example was singular to the use of the confederate flag in modern times and the ideals that seem to be held to it. I would not predict that the average confederate flag waver is a college educated, upper middle-class citizen. I may be wrong.
     
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