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Playing devil's advocate...PETA's views on hunting.

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Finch, Aug 24, 2011.

  1. Finch

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    I found this article rather interesting. I do think PETA has it's place and I agree with some of their views. Thinking they're a little off base with this one though.

    http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-in-entertainment/hunting.aspx

    For those of you that "hate" PETA...how can you say you hate an entire organization just because you don't agree with some of their views? Will you admit that they do some good?

    Isn't it hypocritical to hate an organization that wants to protect the very animals that we love to hunt?

    Just playing devils advocate...would like to hear your thoughts.
     
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    The is nothing I agree with Peta about.
     
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    not a single policy.
     
  4. Finch

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    Maybe you guys know something I don't but what about dogfighting, bullfighting, etc? Do you guys think its okay for two dogs to fight to the death?
     
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    Finch - What would be one of their views that you agree with? I understand you are playing devils advocate, and I tried to keep an open mind when reading the article, but I just don't agree with any of their ideas.
     
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    Lots of touchy subjects on here lately.

    I side with Finch here. I do agree that organizations, such as PETA have their place and do agree with some of their views. Hunting is certainly not one of them. The link you provided has information that is completely off-base and in my opinion, written to "villainize" hunting. Nothing in the article is supported by facts. It's simply their biased view on hunting. An uneducated view at that.

    To place a blanket statement such "you don't agree with Peta about anything, IMO, isn't a very good observation either. There are other articles on their site speaking about dogfighting, etc., that most view as cruel and inhuman. That for example is something I can agree with PETA on.

    However, organizations such as PETA and HSUS can not be trusted. They will do whatever they can to try and stop hunting. They're constantly lobbying, and bring in big bucks to do just that. It's our job to intelligently inform those who ask about hunting and ensure people on the outside of hunting aren't misinformed by these organizations.
     
  7. Finch

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    Don't get me wrong, I dislike PETA due to their stance on hunting/hunters as well as many other things. Hell, some PETA members would rather see a person die than an animal.

    I was thinking more along the lines of dog fighting, animal cruelty, etc. Surely someone else here will admit they are against these things and agree that PETA is fighting against it.

    Is it right to HATE them for this simply because we think their views on hunting is absurd? Just trying to understand this.
     
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  8. Vito

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    Protect, as in stop me from hunting them? It would be hypocritical for me to support that, not hate.

    PETA is a bunch of cock-blockers. I can't support that.

    And I have to right to hate to anything I want, but in all honestly, I don't hate anything or anyone. Even PT...but I do not support PETA in any way, shape, or form.
     
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    Keep in mind that many in this country believes hunting and fishing is cruel and inhuman.
     
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    I agree with one thing and one thing only. And that is that they want to see animals prosper. As a hunter I want to see them prosper as well but I believe that hunting them has helped keep populations down. I also believe that some of their stats are way off. Them saying that most animals shot suffer for 15 min or so? Most deer I shoot run maybe 50-70 yds tops. And they get there in a matter of seconds. I hate the group for trying to get hunting banned.
     
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    My view...
    Is animal cruelty bad? Yes. But where does that rank on the scale of important social problems in our country? Really low IMHO.
     
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    I don't hate peta I just think their hypocritical viewpoints are ridiculous and their many attempts to promote their cause using outright lies and subterfuge indicate what ttype of organization they really are.

    The vast majority hunters abhor cruelty to animals but somehow don't seem to elevate animals above humans.

    http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
     
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    I would venture that those that do are a small percentage of the population, not many.
     
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    How many hunting and fishing licenses are sold in this country each year? How many members of peta are there?
     
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    Vito, you are correct. But I must add that I'd be willing to bet that most who do are either misinformed by groups like PETA or have never been exposed to hunting and fishing or a combination of both.
     
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    Why do you ask?

    I enjoy answering a question with a question so I can address the underlying issue that caused your original question..
     
  17. Vito

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    I agree. Or they watch too many disney movies. Or they got their info from hunters that are misinformed and/or watch too many disney movies.
     
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    To illustrate the disparity in numbers between those that think hunting/fishing are our heritage and part of our life and those that think animals are equivalent.
     
  19. Finch

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    Bruce...thanks for the link. PETA is actually hypocritical in itself. I LOVE THIS!!!
     
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    I didn't look at the exact numbers, but the number of non-license holders by far out number those that purchased one. Now, obviously that doesn't mean all of those people are against hunting. I do know and have met people that are impartial about hunting and fishing. They have even described it as "cruel" or "mean" and "just not for them"...while not members of PETA, or against hunting.

    On the flip side, MI lost a vote a few years back to pass dove hunting. The biggest downfall in that vote was the number of HUNTERS that voted against it. You see it was cruel to kill those cute little birds. Birds of peace, they are.
     

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