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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by BJE80, Aug 1, 2014.

  1. frenchbritt123

    frenchbritt123 Grizzled Veteran

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    I believe that a gun and dog can both be used for good and bad purposes and are controlled by whoever possesses them. A dog is far from having a human brain. Would you let a three year old make it's own decisions and be held accountable?
     
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    So are we :wave:
     
  3. Dan

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    Predictable.
     
  4. Spear

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    Sure, my daugher is 2.5 years old and decided to throw a fit last night because she didn't want to go to bed. She was held accountable for her decision to throw a fit, hence why she is not allowed to watch her favorite cartoon this evening. For the record, I have never seen a gun make the decision to pull it's own trigger. I have however had a dog bite my backside when I was a kid for no other reason than because I was running from it. I didn't know the dog and I was scared because it was running towards me so I turned and ran, which led to the dog chasing me down and biting me. My daughter was held accountable for her actions, the dog was held accountable for his.
     
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    No.6Hunter Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Right back at you dude
     
  6. frenchbritt123

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    My point is this:

    Two puppies are for sale and they are both rots. One is sold to a crack house and one is sold to your family. You train the dog socialize it, care for it and treat it as a member of your family. The one sold to a crack house is fed gun powder, gets the **** knocked out of it on a daily basis and is never cared for or loved.

    How is this so hard to understand? I don't get it?
     
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    Lets look at more recent data as the pitbull varieties have become more common. In 2013, 13 of 14 human deaths were the result of pitbulls. They are 5% or far less of the total dog population and accounted for 93% of human deaths that year. Can anyone possibly argue a lack of correlation? Can anyone do that and not be in denial?

    Three wheelers used to roll over and kill kids, they were banned. Lawn darts used to maime and kill kids, they were banned. Some things just aren't worth the risk. And, some people just aren't willing to admit it.
     
  8. No.6Hunter

    No.6Hunter Die Hard Bowhunter

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    How can you regulate wild dogs in the cities?

    Also, does it show how many of these dogs that have attacked a human have owners?
     
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    GregH Legendary Woodsman

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    Fletch, you know that bean counters can make numbers do what they want for them. You kind of sound like one. :o

    I prefer to use the longer span of time to get more accurate results. Your way, why not just take July, 2014 (one month) I'm sure the results will also be more in your favor.
     
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    I think .22 shells are about 9¢ a round now.
     
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    This is not true, a pitbulls sole purpose is to please it master. My dog OFTEN catches woodchucks and rabbits. The moment she is told DROP, she does so. Dead or alive. I say bring, she brings. Its called proper training my friend. My dog has been involved in altercations with other dogs. Last year a boxer came onto my property and attacked my dog. My dog began to retaliate. I got outside and told my dog STOP. She stopped, the boxer proceded to rip her ear in half and rip her lip in half. My dog sat there and took the beating until I could get my gun and shoot the boxer. The owners of the boxer were then held liable for my dogs vet treatment including nearly 70 stitches and also fined. Moral of the story, my dog is not a instinctual killer. She is an instinctual follower. She follows her masters commands, and in doing so she gains her greatest satisfaction.

    p.s, this is a dog that comes from colby blood. A line dedicated to fighting for nearly 70 years, and who also dominated in the "sport" in its legal days.
     
  12. Spear

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    Well considering the dog ended up being a family dog in the neighborhood with kids and no previous bites, the tender loving care, socialization, and training did jack to save my butt from being bitten (excuse the pun).
     
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    I think its really just the owners who are bad. They also usually are the dog of choice in the government housing areas and they are used in dog fighting a lot. I personally wouldn't own one but not out of fear.
     
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    The answer to number two, Because we live in a country where free will is not only legal, but encouraged. Would I honestly let my dog bite those guys? Hell no, but a snide little joke about it is a simple expression of freedom.
     
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    I love the debates on this forum - That is all.
     
  16. Spear

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    Freedom or not, joking about letting your dog bite specific people that you call out by name who you also happen to disagree with seems a bit tasteless. Nevertheless, carry on.
     
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    Where can you find 22 shells?
     
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    It's also an indicator of a lack of maturity on your part.
     
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    Tasteless? Well maybe, ill give ya that. What is also tasetless is judging an animal you have never met. No dog is a cookie cutter, despite the breed.
     
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    Anecdotal but . ... I've perused the charts of hundreds of patients that have presented to the ER for dog bites.

    It's a crap shoot to really say one breed 'bites' or 'nips' more than another.... but maulings are different. Pits are the number one cause of maulings. It is usually the family pet and the owners swear nothing like that has ever happened before.
    It's stupid to pretend that pits are no more dangerous than most other breeds.
    :(

    BTW, I saw a lot of bites to the legs of kids from heelers. Not attacks, but the heeling instinct.

    I'm not for breed bans... but then I think people should be allowed to own grenades, shoot heroin and drink raw milk if they want.
     

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