Pitbulls

or the owners who make them killers.....

 

I can say I'm not a fan of pit bulls, I don't trust them. I also believe it's an individuals right to own the breed they choose so I'm not against people owning them if they are responsible. A few weeks ago I took one of my dogs, a Bassett hound, to the vet and two very trashy looking women brought in their pits who were obviously untrained and mean. I didn't appreciate it at all that they were there with dogs they could hardly hold back and they didn't have them muzzled. To me they were a perfect example of people who should not own dogs that need a responsible leader. My point in all of that is that most people aren't going to have a problem with you owning pit bulls as long as you are courteous and don't allow your dogs to act threatening to other people or their dogs.

 

There are likely 100 hell 1000 cows for every one pitbull in the nation. I often wonder if people that compare stats online ever even took a stats class to understand what the numbers imply.

Comparing to worldwide coconut deaths or cow stomping isn't just apples to oranges. It's apples to baseball bats. But by all means, continue to bolster our side of the argument in an attempt to hold up the last leg of yours.


As far as solutions I don't really have any besides possibly restricting who can have Pitts but I see how that could be a slippery slope. I'm not sure of a solution to the problem, but that dang sure doesn't change the fact that a problem does exist.

 

No I don't. I believe the owners should be held responsible as though they had committed the act themselves. The dog is not to blame. The dog is only doing what it has been bred to do. And, by the way, pit bulls are not the only breed with a reputation for unpredictable savage attacks, although the number is far disproportionate to their numbers in the dog population.

I think that there have been sufficient incidences published in the media, that pit bull owners cannot claim to be unaware of the danger. And certainly anyone reading this thread would be well informed.

The problem, as has been mentioned before, is that people will show pictures of their pit bull with the kids and claim how gentle the dog is, friendly, etc. That is exactly what the people claim who have had their gentle, friendly, pit bull kill someone. That pit bull in the incident cited by Christine never hurt the kid. I doubt it had any intention of hurting the kid. But how do you get around the fact that the dog killed grandma. Family pet ripped grandma apart, killed her. Killed the owner's mother, who probably just came over to babysit the kid.

"Hey mom, can you come over and babysit junior while I get in some shopping? Don't worry, my pit bull is friendly. He won't kill you."

How can people be so myopic?

 

Ironically enough, I was a biology major and took more statistics classes than most. The problem with statistics is that they can say anything. You can remove outliers, you can run different tests, you can homogenize samples. This entire argument boils down to a couple things. Pitt bulls have killed small numbers of people. That is a fact. Is the number killed higher than that of other dog breeds? Probably yes. The numbers of deaths caused by Pitt bulls is still miniscule when compared to other causes of death. The problem is the media craze over this type of thing. 20 deaths a year on average are attributed to that type of dog. Is it really a nationwide disaster?

Look at it from a different angle. Someone gets caught poaching. Suddenly the media is up in arms saying that all hunters are terrible people that don't follow the law. Is it fair? No. Sadly, the actions of a small number of people can easily give a large group a bad reputation. The same happens with Pitt bulls.

As for a solution, I don't really know that there is one. You can always move to apartment complexes/ neighborhoods/ cities where the breed is restricted. As far as restricting who can have Pitts, that can only be done to a certain extent. The puppies we are fostering are adopted through an agency. That agency runs a background check on people and conducts a home visit before they are approved to adopt a dog. I think that is a good decision. However you will always get someone putting up ads on craigslist for free puppies. It's too hard to regulate that.

 

First of all, the legal system does hold owners accountable in some instances if they can. Second of all, I am sure we could come up with some story of a great family dog of mostly any large breed that one day just up and killed someone. We can do the same with stories of people that just up and kill someone. These are distinctly in the minority. Most dog attacks are from strays or dogs that have been neglected or poorly trained. Finally, I think we agree on something (what I bolded). The dog is probably not to blame in 90% of the dog attacks. The owner is to blame for poor training/ socializing/ neglect etc. As for what the dog is bred to do, it was certainly not bred to attack people.

 

I have to say that is a good point. I have come across other breeds of dogs that are mean. But I have also come across people that think just cause it's a puppy that they can touch. I was hiking with my pit bull when he was about five months old and everybody on the trail wanted to per him until they found out he was a pit bull. To see the facial expression change was amazing.

Another story I have is when I took my pit to the vet for a check up. A lady came out of the back room, cause she had to put her little dog to sleep. Her dog had been attacked by a pit. My dog went up to her and licked her hand. It was the sweetest thing I have ever seen, it almost made me cry.



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Personally, I think the Like/Dislike thing is stupid. But I have clicked like on some posts which I thought were well stated.

I don't have a dog in this fight either.

Our two Labs and our two cats passed on quite a while ago.

But, on the subject of global warming, it's a really super nice day today.

Also, I'm going to "Like" your post. You have been warned.

 

You REALLY need to read that link again........

 

Why would I need to read it again?

 

sigh.....

 

I've never heard of a horse breaking loose and ripping the face off of a child, not even once, do you have a link to these fatal horse mauling's?

 

I was mauled by a cow once......... never went to that bar again.

 

A warning label an tequila would prevent some of that!

 

Does tequila even need a warning label? Tequila is the ultimate gamble in the bar. It's either gonna be one of the best nights out or one of the worst. Either way it usually produces a solid story.

 

Tequila is the Pittbull of alcohols, it ravages the body, rapes the soul, and luckily erases most of the memory!

 

See now you just went and put a negative spin on tequila. I prefer to let the tequila cause the spinning. As for ravaging the body, if a beautiful woman is doing the ravaging I have zero complaints.

 

Tequila make them all beautiful, its the ravages that come in the morning that I don't like.

 

So is tequilla to blame or the dudes who made the tequilla......