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Perhaps a result of a state legalizing crossbows???

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Rancid Crabtree, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. Rancid Crabtree

    Rancid Crabtree Die Hard Bowhunter

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    http://www.metro.us/philadelphia/lo...river-with-crossbow-during-road-rage-outburst

    “A man told them that while he was driving west on Harbison Avenue, he saw a man, later identified as Butterworth, at the wheel of a Dodge Stratus that was weaving in and out of traffic. The man said he changed lanes to the left of the Dodge, passed it and changed back to the right lane in front of the car.

    The victim told investigators that Butterworth then changed to the left lane, pulled up beside him and pointed a crossbow at him from his window. The man called 911 and followed the Dodge to the parking lot, where he said Butterworth again pointed the crossbow at him. He fled the area.”



    Real bows would be far to difficult to draw and hold all while driving.
     
  2. Rick James

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    By that theory, maybe they should ban guns because they would be far easier to use than a crossbow?

    I think your stretching on this one a bit......lol.
     
  3. Rancid Crabtree

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    I offered no theory. Who is talking about banning anything? Take it down a notch partner. Dont make this something its not. PA legalized crossbows for all for hunting and logic demands crossbow usage increased in PA. Now we have a road rage incident with a crossbow.

    As such I queried,

    “Perhaps a result of a state legalizing crossbows???”

    Then I offered the observation:

    "Real bows would be far to difficult to draw and hold all while driving. "

    There was nothing in any of this about banning anything and there certainly wasnt any mention of guns. Where does that come from?????
     
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    It is not a result of crossbow legalization....

    ... but haters gotta hate.
     
  5. Rick James

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    If you can call me partner, then I can call you princess. So why don't you tone it down a notch princess. :evilgrin:

    Your theory of this specific incident as being a result of legalizing crossbows is a bit of a stretch. It's the same argument liberals use against guns everytime there is a violent gun crime. I see no connection between a violent threat in a road rage incident and the legalization of crossbows. I'm fairly certain that an incident would have happened should the guy have not had a crossbow, only it may have been a handgun, slingshot, pellet gun, or maybe a potato gun. The problem with this incident was clearly the dirt bag offender, not what was in his hand.
     
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    Id say it was just what the guy had handy at the time.


    Now if some guy had killed a world record deer with a crossbow Id say then yes it would be a result of them being legalized.


    Furthermore Why care what someone else chooses to hunt with. It isnt none of my business. I cant controll it . I aint going to worry about it
     
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  7. Rancid Crabtree

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    You could but you would again be incorrect since I am a male. I don’t know where you come from so perhaps your culture actually has male princesses or princess means something else.

    As I stated in a prior post (which one would think would be enough) I offered no theories. I tendered a question of sorts. I theorized about no portion of this event. (words mean things)

    Think this through. PA legalized crossbows which expanded the usage and possession rate of crossbows in the state. Had they not legalized crossbows for hunting, this fellow my not have been in possession of said crossbow to use in his road rage, ergo, my query.

    Now to put a big red bow on this. My thread title is:

    “Perhaps a result of a state legalizing crossbows???”

    Which was a sort of observation coupled to a question. No theory about guns or banning guns or any of the off topic banter you offered. Again, words mean things.
     
  8. Rick James

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    Please do keep reaching, it's fun to watch.:whip:
     
  9. Rancid Crabtree

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    Yeah, that was kind of my point. Why was it handy? Perhaps because more folks have them on hand due to the law change.


    Huh? this is not about hunting. This is not about what you have tried to change the subject to. This is a "cause and effect" matter, you know, the philosophical concept of causality, in which an action or event will produce a certain response to the action in the form of another event.

    Why are people trying so hard to hijack this thread???
     
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    I get your point. If they had legalized grenade launchers for hunting
    would the subject have pulled out a grenade launcher because he now has one that he used for hunting? It is hard to imagine that the subject had a crossbow before the law was enacted to legalize crossbows.Amazing how people see more than that into it.
     
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    Wasnt trying to hijack your thread and dont see where people are trying so hard to do so either.

    second in a way it is about hunting..........in your original post you state "had they not legalized crossbows for hunting...."

    I wasnt trying to change the subject to anything.........so just chill a little.


    hows this..........with the information provided i can not determine if it is a result of the state legalizing crossbows for hunting. It does not state if the man is a hunter , if he had the crossbow for for hunting or target shooting or just to threaten drivers with.
     
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    Now that is a right proper reply. Well thought out and to the point. Well played. Tell these other guys not to make this what it is not.
     
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    I know right? We both have about only 600 posts yet guys with more than 2,000 are struggling with this and are getting all animated and worked up.
     
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    I believe that the perpetrator is an anti-Xgun hunter who is out to show the state of Pennsylvania the ills of their actions.
     
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    I don't see how a state's hunting regulations would cause road rage?
     
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    Perhaps because your observation was retarded?

    I don't know, I'm just making casual observations here.
     
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    And you’re the first to suggest such a thing. Nowhere was that mentioned in the story or this thread. The possession of the crossbow can be linked to the increase in crossbow ownership since the new legislation passed making it available to this person (and other persons at an increased level) nobody is suggesting it was the "cause" of the road rage.
     
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    Lmao!
     
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    Well, in defense of Rancid, the legalization of the crossbow did not cause the road rage. The legalization of the crossbow provided the road rager with a proper weapon.
     
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    Maybe it wasnt road rage after all.....maybe the guy found the crossbow on the road, figured it belonged to the other vehicle involved and was only trying stop them to give it back........
    Just a theory :lol:
     

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