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  1. Germ

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    One thing I have notice this year is my eyes don’t focus like they used too. I am not a peep shooter and never have been. I think it’s time, looking at total peep right now I like the size and that it’s aluminum. What peeps have members used here and what do you like about them.

    With a kisser I have always pulled back straight and bent at the waist from the stand. Is the the case with a peep or can you just pull looking at the target?


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    I don't know what brand it is, but I believe it a 1/4" peep.
     
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    I run a peep, Super Deuce 38 - because thats what Scheels had in stock when I was setting my bow up.
    for a couple years had trouble especially when shooting a 5 spot with eye focus. I ended up getting glasses and the first time I shot with them it was amazing how clear the target was, but shooting with glasses is a pain in the.....

    A co worker is a "pro" level shooter and told me to invest in clarifiers? Forgive me I don't know much about these yet, but there are 2 types. 1 replaces the peep and 1 attached to sight, which one you use depends on what is blurry, pins or target.

    My future includes figuring this out because I can't hunt with glasses, them getting fogged up, not being in the right spot on my nose when trying to shoot etc.
     
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    Try a single pin.
     
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    I used to use the smallest peep that would allow me to frame my sight housing. As my eyes have gotten worse, I needed to move to a larger peep and center my sight housing. I think my present is 5/16...maybe 3/8. I don't recall the brand nor care as much about the peep color.

    As Sota said, a single pin simplifies as the pin is usually centered in the housing.

    A bright sight housing ring (like flouro yellow) also helps.

    A fiber on the pin helps, but I'm now to the point, I can't see the pin much past legal shooting light, so I may be moving to a lit pin (legal in most, not all states, check your regs), to give me another 20-30 minutes.

    A clarifier another option, if your issue is the old age/reading glasses scenario. I also am dealing with cataracts, so I may be due for some eye surgery soon and I may forego the clarifier for a bit longer.

    There are peepless options also...I think one was called v-sight or something similar...
     
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    For a peep brand, I generally just look for anything that's aluminum and not real heavy. I currently have a G5 Meta in my hunting bow and like it fine. Diameter wise, for hunting, I would bet the high majority use a 3/16", 7/32", or 1/4" size. When using a peep you have two options, align so the pin you want is centered in the peep, or align the peep diameter up to the sight scope housing.
    Most these days align the peep to the sight housing. When drawn and anchored, the outside of the sight housing/scope matches to the outside diameter of your peep view. It is a consistent reference to use for every shot.
    This requires a peep diameter to match up with the sight housing, some will just try different peep diameters until a match is found, and the other option is to choose a peep diameter and then adjust the sight distance from the riser using a dovetail type mount until they match.
    I prefer to adjust my sight distance to get a match.

    Be aware, if your pins remain pretty blurry after adding a peep, then you'll want to consider getting a peep that will allow a verifier to be put in it. A "verifier" is to clean up the pins, and a "clarifier" is to clean up the target (used in conjunction with a sight lens usually).
    If that is the case, then you'll need a peep that will accept a verifier lens. There are different power lenses, it is best to go to a shop that has a sample kit so you can figure out what power verifier works best for you.

    As far as shooting from a stand with a peep, yes, I still need to draw level and then bend at the waist to get on target. If I draw with my arm angled down at a ground target, I drop my bow shoulder rather than leaning at the waist and will almost always shoot high. It is not an issue for everyone, but it is for me and drawing and anchoring level and then bending at the waist keeps me from hitting high.
     
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    A "clarifier" is used to clean up a fuzzy target.
    A "verifier" is used to clean up fuzzy pins.
     
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    Yep I have a single pin


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    Great info thank you


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    Check out these. Very easy to use. Also have peeps that you can get a lense. I use there regular 1/4" peep. Now used on 2 bows. Have almost zero problems and they never move up or down the string. Get a slight oval to them after a couple years, but so cheap and easy to replace each year or 2 if needed.https://sawtoothoutdoorproducts.com/
     
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    I have been battling the vision changes lately too.
    Have always had contacts and then had to start using a verifier about 5-6 years ago. Now I need readers to focus my upclose reading and I fight with 2 different powers in verifiers.
    This year I tried leaving my right eye contact out and shooting. I see perfect up close without contacts. It works and no verifier needed.

    just a different option for you but sounds like a verifier would do you good.
     
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    what I’ve had done to battle this is only use one contact in my shooting eye. I close the non contact wearing eye to aim.
     
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    Thank you going to give these a try here during gun season. See if I can’t get back to what I was, even if just partially back would be suffice.


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    Based on your OG question, one thing isn't specified that impacts the type of equipment you may need- are you near or far-sighted?

    Are you having a tough time seeing the pins when the target is clear and/or having a tough time seeing the target when your pin is clear; or are both fuzzy at the same time?

    If you're near sighted, you are always going to have issues clearly seeing targets downrange. Your peep aperture might be crystal clear, your pins more or less clear, but the target is a blob. The reverse is true if you're far sighted. If your eye clearly sees the target, your pin is likely to be at least a little fuzzy, and it may be impossible to see through your peep at all. You may be looking past your peep, but not truly through it. I am slightly far sighted in my shooting eye, and I have to really concentrate/focus to see through my peep- my natural inclination is to see past it. I can clearly see my pin(s) and my target at the same time, but not easily/clearly see all three focus points (through hole in peep, to pin, and on to target) at the same time.

    I have been shooting peep only (no kisser) for about 10 years but I am probably going back to shooting with both, or even after this season possibly lose the peep altogether. When hunting, I have noticed I am having problems finding a consistent anchor, especially when the tip of my nose is cold. I have to fight to see through the peep and I think I am torquing a bit to get that proper sight picture rather than finding the right anchor point. Couple an inconsistent anchor with my slight farsightedness, I have seen really awful results in the field this year. Totally different story at the range, when I have all the time in the world to settle in.

    If you start that whole process at the back end with inconsistent anchor point, your shot will be off regardless of how well clearly you see either pins or target; or how well tuned/centered your equipment is.

    So my only real piece of advice at this point- if you get a peep, don't abandon the kisser in lieu of the peep. Shooting both is fine, but you're about 50 yoa and learning to consistently anchor without a kisser is going to be tough to do at this point in your bowhunting journey. You lose what, a total of 5-8fps by keeping it on? And you might best be served by getting a magnifying lens on your sight housing rather than a peep at all.

    (from a recent bowhunting.net article)

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    I am a bit far sighted now, reading and upclose is a nightmare for me now without readers.

    I am having issues focusing on the target and pin. I am getting lost when I first pull back and settle in.

    Past it’s was pull, anchor settle and shoot. Pull and anchor are good, just the settle part for me now.

    I’ll keep the kisser, good advice. I am going to try a peep and I am not worried about fps, as I shoot a heavy arrow and don’t really care about fps. I am old and shooting 60 pound bow.

    I have hunted the past 10 years and killed few deer with this setup, I just want to be able to settle in a bit better.


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    based on that ^

    you probably need a verifier if you get a peep.

     
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    Yep that’s what I just ordered

    Thank you sir


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