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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Tony, Nov 13, 2015.

  1. Afflicted

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    It's an open forum, that's what you do. Express our freedom of speech.

    I'll answer yes to those questions. I bought a new holster for my 9mm Glock the day after Paris.
     
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    I'm not saying I am backing this idea but here it out.

    Life is miserable in the Middle East right? Maybe some happy people but with all the unrest and instability I'm guessing not so good. And it's going to continue to get worse right? Trying to fix the problem with politics in my mind is like trying to stop and avalanche with a butterfly net. There was a time for the butterfly net but not anymore. If we did destroy the entire Middle East it would be easier to rebuild it the right way. Then the unhappiness could finally end.


    Not saying I back this plan, I don't favor killing innocence people.


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    Special forces, sniper rifles and no bag limit. Keep killing those who take up the lead of terrorism and make it so nobody would want to be the leader, or so the leaders cannot stick their heads out of the holes they will be living in. That will allow the people of the region to take over their own country.
     
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    That's what we did the last time we went to Iraq and it didn't work clearly. Chris Kyle wrote his book and it sounded exactly like what you described


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    Exactly why I posted what I did.
     
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    difference was special forces was mixed with regular military and eventually regular military took over. If we just keep our special forces isolated and let them do their jobs and kill those we want dead. We keep trying to fight them like they are a country. We need to change how we go after them. And take the handcuff off.
     
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    As one steps in, take them out as well. Occupying and trying to change a whole mindset is probably the worst idea. That's like sitting in a church on Sunday trying to tell people God doesn't exist. Good luck getting anything accomplished. Doubt you'll make any friends either.
     
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    That's funny but doesn't apply to this situation at all. The person would have to punch 50 innocent people before the chance of punching back.

    ISIS members are not gathered together. They're living alongside innocent people, making it difficult to punch back with the military's current tactics.
     
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    Just wanted to see what everyone thought of it.

    My Facebook newsfeed is filled with people sharing that and praising it... Directly because of the situation that it does not apply to.
     
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    my buddy just posted this on another forum about his state, Connecticut, agreeing to take in syrian refugees........

    Ct. just said we'll be taking in 1600 Syrian refugees.
    Coming to a town near you.

    Facts:
    The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
    The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
    The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
    The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
    The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
    The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
    The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
    The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
    The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
    The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
    The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
    The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
    The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
    The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
    The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
    The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
    The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
    The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
    The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
    The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
    The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
    The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
    The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
    The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
    The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims'

    Think of it:
    Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
    Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
    Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
    Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
    Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
    Confusians living with Baha'is = No Problem
    Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
    Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
    Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
    Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
    Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
    Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
    Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
    Christians living with Jews = No Problem
    Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
    Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
    Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
    Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
    Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

    Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
    Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
    Muslims living with Christians = Problem
    Muslims living with Jews = Problem
    Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
    Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
    Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
    Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
    MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

    **********SO THIS LEADS TO *****************
    They’re not happy in Gaza
    They're not happy in Egypt
    They're not happy in Libya
    They're not happy in Morocco
    They're not happy in Iran
    They're not happy in Iraq
    They're not happy in Yemen
    They're not happy in Afghanistan
    They're not happy in Pakistan
    They're not happy in Syria
    They're not happy in Lebanon
    They're not happy in Nigeria
    They're not happy in Kenya
    They're not happy in Sudan

    ******** So, where are they happy? **********
    They're happy in Australia
    They're happy in England
    They're happy in Belgium
    They're happy in France
    They're happy in Italy
    They're happy in Germany
    They're happy in Sweden
    They're happy in the USA & Canada
    They're happy in Norway & India
    They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame?
    Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves... THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!
    and they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy.

    Facts:
    Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    AND A LOT MORE!!!!!!!

    Think about it........ Muslims:
    1] Kill any one who insults Islam or Moham-mad. (Koran.33;57-61).
    2) Kill all Muslims who leave Islam. (Koran.2;217/4;89/Bukhari.9;84-57).
    3) Koran can not be doubted. (Koran.2;1).
    4) Islam is the only acceptable religion. (Koran.3;85).
    5) Muslims must fight (jihad) to non-Muslims, even if they don't want to. (Koran.2;216).
    6) We the non-Muslims are pigs and apes. (Koran. 2;62-65/Koran.5;59-60/Koran.7;166).
    7) We the non-Muslims cannot be friends with Muslims. (Koran.5;51).
    8) We the non-Muslims sworn enemies of Muslims and Islam. (Koran.4;101).
    9) We the non-Muslims can be raped as sex slave. (Koran.4;3 & 24/5;89/23;5/33;50/58;3/70;30).
    10) We the non-Muslims the vilest of creatures deserving no mercy. (Koran.98;6).
    11) Muslim must terrorize us (non-Muslims). (Koran.8;12 &59-60/ Bukhari.4;52;220).
    12) Muslims must strike terror into non-Muslims hearts. (Koran.8;60).
    13) Muslims must lie to us (non-Muslims) to strengthen and spread Islam. (Koran.3;28?16;106).
    14) Muslims are allowed to behead us (non_Muslims) (Koran.47;4).
    15) Muslims are guaranteed to go to heaven if they kill us (non-Muslims). (Koran.9;111).
    16) Marrying and divorcing pre-pubescent children is OK. (Koran.65;4).
    17) Wife beating is OK. (Koran.4;34).
    18) Raping wives is OK. (Koran.2;223).
    19) Proving rape requires 4 (four) male Muslim witnesses. (Koran.24;13).
    20) Muslims are allowed to crucify and amputate us (non-Muslims). (Koran.8;12/47;4).


    Koran this:
    http://www.americanthinker.com/arti...s_why_islam_is_not_the_religion_of_peace.html



    maybe you all who are sympathetic to these "innocents" should open up your homes and adopt some refugee's.
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    Hahahaha that's most have taken forever to write up. Checkmate?


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    Sure the Muslims committed those crimes and the Koran may say those things (we have no idea since we haven't read it). Those are terrorist organizations.... But what is the point of that giant post??? Do you honestly believe that every single Muslim is a part of what you just posted?

    Again, the generalizations based off of .003% of 1.6 Billion people is laughable.


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    They why aren't the innocent majority not standing up for what is right and putting these radicals in their place? Why are they not up in arms, denouncing those terroristic acts? I have no answer for this other than they are sympathetic to that cause.

     
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    I don't have an answer for that either...


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    That video is great.

    There are definitely a lot of valid points when it comes to this discussion. I wouldn't jump straight to sympathetic to the cause... but I do tend to agree that the Muslim community must do a better job of standing up for themselves and speaking out against this radical minority demonstrating how they do NOT represent the majority of muslims. Silence is misinterpreted as agreement or alliance, which is a mistake on their part IMO. As for the ones who actually live over there, it's easy why they don't speak out. The ones in power will kill them.

    This whole scenario is disheartening for me. The sickest part of all are all the memes and fake stories floating around the internet and Facebook. "As long as there are homeless vets we don't have room for refugees".. "as long as there are homeless children..." What are YOU doing about those scenarios? If you care so much about homeless vets then go help one find a home... quit using their horrible situation as an arguing point against others in need. I tend to agree we can't risk accepting the masses of refugees currently. But we also can't sit back and do nothing. Bad guys hiding among them or not, hundreds of thousands of people are in dire need right now and we as a country have calloused ourselves into not caring at all.
     
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    I agree, but we ignore the needs of millions of people in Africa every day. There are places over there that are worse off than Syria right now. I guess is we can't save everyone and we really need to stop picking and choosing who we want to try and save. That's what's got us to where we are today.

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    I think the reason the people of the middle east get more attention is because those in power not only oppress their own people (like in Africa) but also actively seek out and hurt outsiders worldwide.

    I just can't wrap my head around how much evil is still out there and how primitively much of the world still lives. We definitely were extremely fortunate to be born in America... That much is for sure.
     
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    There is a difference between not caring and protecting our nation and people. We have before rendered aid and assistance to people displaced by war and have done it without flying them 1/2 around the world.

    We need to quick hit ISIS in Syria and get them out of a position of power and back into their holes and give the refugees back their country. Than remain close and vigilant and blow their heads off when they pop out of their holes. Empower the native people to take their country into their own hands.


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