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PA Resturant banning children under 6

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by BJE80, Jul 15, 2011.

  1. BJE80

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    Agreed. I heard about this a couple days ago.
     
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    I encourage all serious restaurants do this. Nothing worse than trying to have nice meal and too have some screaming brat seated next to you, and the parents do nothing about it.

    And yes, it is a private business, so they can do whatever they desire. I really do not see an argument for the other side either.
     
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    I don't see any issue with it. If I had reservations at a nice restaurant, and the babysitter had to cancel, I would call ahead to make sure kids were allowed. Have had to do this twice. If my kids were not well behaved, I would just cancel.
     
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    Besides the fact that Vuick is within his rights, it's his business, I don't see anything wrong in letting him do what he wants.

    I do find it interesting that discrimination laws are what are cited as the defining rule for "public" establishments. I understand that they are there to protect any persons ability to have access to food and shelter, but people have other options besides restaurants to obtain meals.

    While I agree that everyone should be treated as equally as possible, I also see reasons for people to be allowed to enjoy their differences. I grew up in a large family, I understand how noisy kids can be and how disruptive they can be for other people. If I didn't care about noise, I'd go to Chilis or TGI Fridays where you'll see a lot of families and the atmosphere itself is loud. If I want to have a quiet dinner or enjoy something romantic, I wouldn't pick a place to eat that has that atmosphere or is frequented by families.
     
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    Ditti here, I have never had issue, infact folks come up to us and comment how well our kids behave in a resturant.

    The issue is not the kids, it's the parents. This is just a way to keep bad parents and their kids out of resturants.
     
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    I have no problem with this, with it being a privately owned business, I say have it.
     
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    Yep... and it keeps getting worse
     
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    That doesn't always work. You would be surprised as to some of the places I have seen parents bring their kids. I always assume it is couples that don't get out often to nice restaurants, and refuse to let the little runts ruin a rare outing. It's like they just completely tune them out and ignore them, all to the dismay of the other restaurant patrons.
     
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    Hooker it's becasue they think their kids our "speacial" Meaning the common sense rules of having good behavior in public can be ignored. There kids why set any expectations of their behaivor in public, let them do what they want.

    I have only had to take my son to the bathroom for a "talk" once, he got the point.
     
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    A much more interesting topic concerning restaurants is whether or not the government has the right to outlaw smoking in all restaurants.

    This has been a hot debate in LA for some time. I have mixed feelings about it. The libertarian in me says "F*** the government, let the private business owner do as he pleases", but the smoker hater in me sure wishes that I didn't always leave my favorite bar/restaurant smelling like an ashtray.
     
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    GA has banned smoking in restaurants, as a non-smoker I love it. However I lean more towards letting each business make those choices.
     
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    Michigan and Ohio did the same thing, Ohio had the ban about 3 years before Michigan. We just went to Ohio to eat, I will not eat where smoking is allowed.

    For public health reasons smoking should be ban in all public areas.
     
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    I think they should ban farting in public places as well. I don't like going home smelling like a$$.
     
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    I agree, but what about private businesses?
     
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    Im in the same boat. I hate smoking but should the gov. be able to tell a private business what to do?

    They banned it in FL in 1999 in restaurants but its still legal in open bars and clubs. Now when I go to a different state and the ask "smoking or non" Im like What?? Haha

    I also agree with the child thing too. They are a private business and should be able to make their own decisions.
     
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    For resturants I agree with the ban.

    Bars and bowling Ally's should be open.
     
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    I wouldn't protest against it, but morally, I'm against the ban. You can choose to not eat at a smoking restaurant.
     
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    The child ban...all for it.

    Kids scream and fuss, that happens. Like was said earlier, it's the parents that are the problem.

    The smoking issue I'm all for as well (sorry). I'm ok with isolating them (the smokers) as well. At this point in medical history, if you're still smoking, well, you should be segregated within the building or made to do so outside of the building. I HATE being around smoke.

    The government dictating the private sector to do so is treading a fine line, though.
     
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    They should ban kids under 6 from everywhere. This restaurant is just the start to what we really need. Lakes, POOLS, hotels, well maybe not hotels but they shouldn't be allowed outside of hotels, stores, movies, etc.

    They should also allow you to sew parents when kids get on your nerves. I just love how random kids in restaurants and stores come up to you very awkwardly and stare at you and then ask your name while the parents giggle and think it's cute. This is especially embarrassing for those who have weird names.
     

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