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PA Governor says PSU Asst McQueary "Didn't meet his Moral Obligation."

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  1. OHbowhntr

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    http://news.yahoo.com/gov-penn-st-assistant-failed-moral-obligation-162543549.htmlPA Governor at least has something right.... He says that McQueary failed to meet his "moral obligation," when he witnessed the boy being raped by Sandusky. Finally someone is seeing this for what it is!!!! Wow, I can't believe the number of people who want to hang this on JoePA, and totally ignore McQueary's severe "lapse of judgement."
     
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    Perhaps had "joepa" done the right thing in 1998 when sandusky was originally investigated, and subsequently resigned (hmm), then it would have never escalated to what mcqueary saw. I am in no way trying to exonerate mcqueary as, once he saw what he did, he should have acted like any reasonable person and helped the boy and reported sandusky. But explain to me why "joepa" thought it was OK for sandusky to "fool around" and have "horseplay" while naked with a 10 year old boy.

    Personally I think the whole coaching staff should have been fired and, those that could be, should be prosecuted. I do not believe for one second that there wasn't knowledge of what was going on. In that type of close knit environment there would be some seriously strong rumours if not outright knowledge of waht sandusky was doing.
     
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    I have NEVER heard anyone wanting to ignore McQueary?????
     
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    Yeah I have to agree with PT. Joe dominates the coverage because he's a bigger name, but I hear a lot more disgust associated with McQueary.
     
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    I've said from day one that McQuery should have beat the crap out of the old fart and thrown him naked into the street. What ever happened to doing something vs."Reporting" it? JoePa is as guilty as any of them. He should have done something.....not hide it and tell the old fart to take it off campus.
     
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    You can't trust old people.
     
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    I tend to agree with this^^. McQuery should have followed up and gone to the cops . . . After giving Sandusky a ass beating. However, when he told JoePa, Joe should have immediately suspended Sandusky, and also followed up on his report. I know he told his boss, but when Sandusky was still on his staff after a couple of weeks, after commiting a felony, Joe should have questioned it and taken it higher. At some point he would have been told that either a) it was turned over to the cops, or b) we are going to cover this up. If a), he should have realized "no cops have talked to me" and followed up further. As soon as he ultimately found out that they were going to cover it up, he should have gone public with it. Even in "98, JoePa was such a legend that, had he done the right thing, the moral thing, and protected the kids, he would have survived the scandal. If he could go to the Court of Public Opinion and say "as soon as it was brought to my attention, I suspended the Coach, and made sure a complete investigation was done by the proper authorities", Joe would have been a hero. And, before anyone says otherwise, when dealing with reported Aggravated Sexual Abuse of a Minor, University Administration is never the proper authority.
     
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    McQueary is not trying to say that he DID break it up, then he went home and called his daddy...... :mad: He should have beat the old man to death and called the police!!! I still say he's the one that deserves to get a little time in the the pen right next to Sandusky.
     
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    Now we have a THIRD change in McQueary's story where he's now saying he DID go to the police...... What next??? The administrations "knee-jerk" reaction to FIRE JOEPA, may be looking like a questionable one before we know it....
     
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    JOEPA is as guilty as mcqueary. I don't see anything questionable in his firing at all. What is questionable is why they didn't, at the very least, fire mcqueary, if not the whole coaching staff.
     
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    I'm questioning McQueary all the way around!!! What DID he report??? Who the hell knows, his story has changed 3 times in a week!!! Did he or didn't he report this to the police??? Did he just leave and go home and call his daddy, and meet with JoePA the next day, or did he break it up, or did he break it up, call the police and campus police and his daddy and JoePA??? Did he report "horseplay" or "a man raping a boy???" I said in the beginning, something ain't quite right with his story, and I think in the end, we're gonna find out he's got some issues.
     
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    Can you imagine if hes telling the truth, and he did stop it, and go to police, and JoePa, and they ALL tried to cover it up.

    That actually sounds like a more truthful version of things, the way things are now in this county.
     
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    No but I can imagine he's about to get hit with a PERJURY charge as well, and maybe the PERJURY charges filed against others may not stand..... Who the hell knows??? What I do know is that his initial report to the grand jury of what he did, and what he's now changed to the last two times don't match up, so either he's a liar or he's a liar or he's a liar...... You pick. I think Sandusky dumped him (McQueary), so he (McQueary) made the story up to get back at him (Sandusky). :hater:


    Just not sure what to believe, but I know I don't believe much of what McQueary has said, and if he's changing his story, now 3 different versions, who can blame JoePA for having to wonder about whether he may have been being told the truth or some fairy tale.... Again, if a guy came to me and told me last night he saw some guy we both know raping a child in the shower, I'd want to know if he needed legal counsel for killing the guy or what happened, and if he said he just walked out, I'd punch him in his cowardly mouth!!!
     
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    joepa knew the truth in 1998.
     
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    If you watch the interview with Costas and Sandusky, you know McQueary is telling the truth.
     
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    Yeah, which TRUTH is he telling Gary??? The whole truth, part of it, or nothing but NONE of it??? I think there is little doubt Sandusky was doing things that were unspeakable, but I think that this whole thing hinges on McQueary, and nobody really knows what the hell to believe!!! If I had to carry the cross he's claiming he was carrying, that thing would have gone straight to whichever highest authority I had to go to to ensure that that sick bastard was JAILED!!! In all honesty, my response may have sent him to his maker to be judged, then I'd be the one on trial.

    Bruce,
    I agree, I believe he did, and for that, I agree that Paterno should've NEVER allowed that guy anywhere near the PSU facilities, but I think they tried to get charges back then, and it never passed the litmus enough to get to court, whether that was because of dirty money or not, I can't say, but it's suspicious, that's for sure. My biggest question lies on what did McQueary really do when he saw the "alleged" incident.
     
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    I think McQueary was told what to say and what to do by Penn State. Why do you think they have not fired him? Because he knows what happen and if fired he's going to start talking.

    This was a cover up IMO and when/if they fire McQueary we will find out what happen.
     
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    That interview was something else. Never know Bob Costas could go into so much detail...and Sandusky was def. stuttering the whole time...
     
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    Wrong. This whole thing hinges on the 8 victims (so far, I have heard there may be as many as 10 more) and I think I believe them. Without mcqueary's story sandusky still goes to jail for a long time. What mcqueary's story does is indict the whole PSU hierarchy with a coverup which is exactly what was going on. joepa, the whole coaching staff and PSU leaders should all be fired and/or go to jail. This is as slimy as it gets.
     
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    Yep .... this ...
     

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