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Overseeding soybeans

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  1. gchs4464

    gchs4464 Weekend Warrior

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    I planted 4.5 acres of soybeans in the spring I'm looking to overseed it with crimson clover, winter wheat, and big and beauty from frigid forage. Just curious how much of each you guys would put in it IMG_1708.JPG


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    If you get a good stand of soybeans you will be wasting time and money.

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    My 4.5 acres I spread across 4 fields 2 have been hit harder than the others lots of exposed dirt. But what's you reasoning that it would be a waste in my good stand


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    You'll be fine if you overseed it just before leaf drop.
    I'd use 45 pounds of crimson, 100-150 pounds of wheat and maybe 12 pounds of the B&B. Roughly 10ppa, 50ppa and 3ppa respectively. Could probably go lighter on the wheat and be good.
     
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    I'm thinking I'm gonna come in a little later with the winter wheat so it doesn't mature out before frost some time in September do you think if this is my strategy I may want to go a little heavier because the brassica and clover will be coming in


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    Huh?
     
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    The soybeans will shade out the other plants and they will not grow very well. Since he said he has bare spots then it would be worth it in those areas.

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    I don't know what maturity group those beans are but unless you happened to get a really short season bean, by the time the leaves are ready to drop and you should get the seed on the plot, I doubt you'll have a problem with the wheat jointing before frost. I don't know how well it would work coming in later with the wheat, typically the leaf drop on the beans acts as a mulch/germination catalyst for the over seeded crop. If you come in later with the wheat you may have more of a challenge getting it to take.
     
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    You do realize I'd bet over 80% of guys serious about habitat management overseed their beans whether they came in thick or not. Overseeding the beans as they kick off their yellowing opens up and exposes the soil below with sun and you instantly have standing beans for late season and greens or brassicas or clover or all the above maturing. One of the biggest tools habitat folks have. Mean no disrespect but it really is something anyone that plants beans should strongly consider.
     
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    Ok so please excuse my ignorance but I did the same and planted cow peas and soy beans both are doing great and my deer are hammering them, but in Oklahoma first frost will be late October early November. With that being said I usually till up my beans and plant about half the 3 acre field in winter wheat...what's over seeding? Do I just spread a lot of winter wheat seed over my beans with no tilling or anything?
     
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    (Disclaimer) This will be my first time doing it. But when the soybean leaves start to yellow you come in and broadcast seed into the plot before the leaves drop hopefully right before a rain.


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    Late season standing soybeans are hard to beat. Once they brown down and beans harden the deer will start to hammer them again, picking the pods right off the stem. I see no reason whatsoever to till them under in the middle of the season. I will leave mine standing until March/April, then till them under and start prepping the field for planting again in May. There really only a short window when soybeans aren't attractive to deer. During the early season they will hammer the green leafy biomass. Once the brown down phase starts, they will typically move on to a different food source. 2-3 weeks later, they will start hammering the pods and will do so until their are no more pods or the pods shatter. At that point they will pic the seeds up off the ground.
    You can easily come in and hand sow a late season blend into the standing soybeans right as they start to yellow. This will give you two different types of attraction in one field at the same time.
     
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    I've done this with turnips and radishes after the leaves turn yellow on the soybeans and had an awesome 1-2 punch for november-late season and I'm in mid Minnesota. We get cooler temps and frost way earlier than you will there and it worked out great for me! Best of luck this season!!!
     
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    Thanks for the help guys


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    Thanks guys learned something new, I'll spread my wheat once it starts to turn brown.
     
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