Overlooked aspect of deer management

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  1. No.6Hunter

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    For those who trap a lot, what do you do with your yotes or coons after your trapped them?

    I know skinning them is common but how many coons or yotes does one skin before getting tired of it..
     
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    What do you mean? I figured our eastern yotes would be larger and nicer coats due to longer winters..
     
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    I Agree! There's some decent sized dogs in the Midwest, but nothing compared to what Ive seen back east in NH and ME when I lived there.

    From what we kill on the ranch in KS I'd say our average is 25-30 pounds with a big dog going in the high 30-low 40 range. Dogs in the 50 pound class are not uncommon at all in the northeast.

    People say it's because they crossed up with eastern wolves back in the day, I don't know if that statement is true or not, but I can say the dogs in New England are way bigger than what I e seen in the Midwest.
     
  4. Kaiser878

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    No, they don't have the quality of fur the westerns do.... if I can find pictures I'll post em. You.will notice a difference right away. Also westerns tend to be a lot lighter in color. Which is more desirable...


    Caught another today.... [​IMG]

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    What about the coywolf? is that a eastern yote pretty much?

    Where I live, 30 min outside of Detroit, I had 2 good sized yotes run across the road in the middle of the day Sunday. They weren't quite as big as my GSD but close.
     
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    Kaiser this may be a dumb question but how do you kill them? Just a 22 to the head?
     
  7. Kaiser878

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    No, a coy wolf is just that, a coyote mixed with a wolf. We have a lot of coydogs. .... which are coyotes bred with dogs. And that's why they are getting so big.... a coyote shouldn't weigh 45 or 50 lbs....

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  8. Kaiser878

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    Yup. 22 short. Head or behind the shoulder. I prefer behind the shoulder, they bleed a lot less when being skinned

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    I skin mine, roll them and freeze them till the end of the year, then I sell.....

    You don't get tired of skinning them, u
    You just keep doing it until it's over.

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    Another one bites the dust...... off of my main hunting property. That's 10 off it now
    [​IMG]

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    Kaiser I've done some trapping. Not this year didn't have time to prep my traps. I'm familiar with snares and leg holds. Done alotta creek trapping too but the yote with the snare at the small locusts has me interested. I see no fences so how'd you manage to catch that dog in a snare with no hole or slide in the fence


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    They are running trails.... it's easiest to trap them in fields where there are designated trails through the knee high grass. This trail went rt down through the locust trees. I'm really not running many snares, maybe 10 or 11 in this field.
    They are running trails.... it's easiest to trap them in fields where there are designated trails through the knee high grass. This trail went rt down through the locust trees. I'm really not running many snares, maybe 10 or 11 in this field. But it just so happens to be the most common used trails by them.

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    I'd be worried I'd catch a deer lol


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    Great post!
     
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    I'd be lieing to you if I told you.it didn't happen occasionally. That's why I try to keep the vast majority of my snares in wide open fields so if a deer did get caught, it wouldnt tangle itself and strangle out. I did catch one early this year and released it....

    As a result I started running my snares even lower, and have actuslly had even more success on coyotes. So there must be something to it.

    Anyone who snares a lot in high deer density areas will eventually catch one, it just takes that one fluke of a time for a deer to be walking with its head down and happen to walk into it. Ohio has a law that states the snares have to have a deer stop on them, but that is only effective on their legs, not their head.

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    They left for a week and were back last night. Atleast 1 was, and it didn't leave!!! That's 11 off this property. The fawns should do well this year.
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    That's a great pic! He's one unhappy coyote. lol
     
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    This is one of the properties you will likely be spending a fair amount of time on when you come up... if you see a coyote, it mught be a miracle. Ha

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    If I do see one, can I choot him? lol
     
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    At least 2 or 3 fawns a year.
     

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