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Opinions on head shots with gun.

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by LilSiman/OH, Dec 19, 2014.

  1. frenchbritt123

    frenchbritt123 Grizzled Veteran

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    I think ego for some and with others they missed the target and want you to think that is where they were aiming.
     
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    I'm not sure what the laws in your state are, but I'm pretty sure in Kansas it's illegal to harvest a turkey with a centerfire or rimfire cartridge. I believe it's shotgun and bow only. Broadheads of at least 85 grains and a 7/8 cutting diameter or shotgun minimum 20 gauge with shot as large as #4.
     
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    Sure they are but if you've hunted much with buckshot then you know a couple of buckshot pellets through the lungs is lethal but a deer can and will carry that a long way and the blood trail is often crap. I think it's worth mentioning that where you hunt and the type hunting you're doing comes into play. I hunt a lot of timber company land and swampland. The last thing I want is a deer hitting the swamp or thick cutover with a buckshot bloodtrail. We do drives and run deer with beagles sometimes, I aim to drop them in their tracks and inside 40-50 yards buckshot to the head/neck does the trick. It has nothing to do with ego and everything to do with results and past experience.
     
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    Why would you use buckshot for deer?

    I would have to agree with buckshot that a head shot would be preferred but I'm not hunting deer with buckshot.

    I couldn't if I wanted to as it is illegal here.
     
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    Never....
     
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    In many counties in VA it's been the law for a long time. No rifles & no slugs. There have been several counties that have added slugs but only when elevated 15 ft. All the clubs I have ever hunted with here only allow buckshot during organized hunts. Buckshot gets a bad rap sometimes but within the right range it's pretty devastating.
     
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    Anyone who takes a head shot is a poor excuse for a hunter in my eyes....and quite frankly....an *******....zero respect for the game we are after....im not playing ethics police just calling like it is.....and that includes the "expert" shooters and their ballistic calculators.....give me a break....what a joke
     
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    Right on! Head shots disgust me because of what can go wrong like Craig stated here.
     
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    Zero respect for a deer if I head shoot it? I'm killing the thing, a head shot under the right circumstances is quick and clean regardless of what the experts on the internet say. I head shoot squirrels and bunnies too but I bet you don't really give a tihs about that. Quit putting deer on a pedestal, frankly it's just weird.
     
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    So its respectful to shoot a deer in the gut on accident but when you shoot a deer in the nose your worthless scum of the earth..... that makes sense..... How is being able to hit a 5 inch area at 30 yards more ethical than being able to hit a 1 inch area at 100....
     
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    It's so noble to kill one with a heart shot ;) I'm sure they appreciate it....unless you miss. That must be where all the deer running around with arrows in their shoulder or legs blown off come from....and don't get me started on the "Made a bad shot" threads.
     
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    Ask a trapper about a head shot...
     
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    A gut shot deer dies within a few hours. A deer shot in the snout dies in weeks.

    No comparison
     
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    Your telling me a deer that cant breath will outlive a gutshot deer?
     
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    I don't understand why people would intentionally make a shot more difficult by going for he head? A few inches off in any direction when aiming for the center of the lungs and your still in the kill zone. The same can't be said on a head shot.
     
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    Just to play devils advocate.... why would you intentionally make deer hunting harder by using a bow instead of a gun, its so much easier to just use a gun....
     
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    Dumb comparison. I hunt with bow during archery season as it's the only weapon allowed. I use a rifle during gun season. Make sense?
     
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    You are comparing shooting a deer to shooting a trapped animal at 3ft?
     
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    Ok forget respect to the animal and ethics completely .....shooting it in the head is still messed up...why would you....that thought process is whats weird not actually having a conscience
     
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    Not really, I mentioned squirrels, rabbits, or trapped animals only to show that head shots are really not that uncommon. You could add varmints, hogs, coyotes to that list as well. Point is no one cares if you shoot any or all of those animals in the head....but if you shoot a deer in the head you're a monster.

    I understand 3 ft is certainly point blank range but 40 yards with a load of buckshot from my shotgun might as well be 3 ft. Literally have killed 100's of deer this way. I don't want to lose them so it's best for me if they don't run off into the swamps or cutovers or even more common than both of those when you're in an organized hunt....they just make it to the next guy.
     
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