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  1. JohnnyD

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    Bowhunt or Die face book page thread reads:
    Does a neck shot really drop them like they say?
    Guys saying 40 yards in the neck drops in 10 yards.
    IMO unethical, way to small of a vital shot.
    IMO worst than frontal shot like the thread on this blog.
    What do you all say?




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  2. CoveyMaster

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    Two years ago I had a buck here at home that a spotlighter shot in the neck with a rifle and he made it okay. Sure it can kill a deer but it's an extremely low percentage shot choice. I'm not sure why any experienced hunter would intentionally use that as a target. It isn't any different than a spine shot.
    I'm cautious about labeling anything unethical but for me...this would likely fit.
     
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    I feel its my duty as a bow hunter to practice for perfection when shooting; to make the best shot to provide the least amount of suffering i possibly can. I dont feel my skill & abilities are so great that i can absolutely count on hitting such a small target area reliably every single time in the woods. Strange things happen with stick & strings, some are in our control, others are not. Why would i not take the best advantage possible by taking aim at the largest target area? The little bit of meat a person is "saving " by taking a neck shot isnt worth the risk to me. When playing the odds, i prefer them to be in my favor as much as possible. Just my opinion...

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    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    Completely unethical.
     
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    I personally would not hunt with someone ever again if they purposefully took a 40 yard neck shot with a bow.
     
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    Wiscohunter Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Unethical. And down right irresponsible to do it with a bow.
     
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    Well...... it depends on what rifle I carry. If I carry my 30.06, I shot a personally loaded 185gr bullet that travels about 1700fps...... I shoot behind the shoulder and the deer run off a bit. But. Sometimes I carry my .204 rifle shooting a 65gr wedge tip bullet traveling at 4200fps, I will shot the deer in the neck. The deer will immediately drop in their tracks and never move again. Now is there a sweet spot of where to shoot a deer in the neck? Definitely! I was raised waiting my dad shoot deer in the neck and I have never had trouble with it. ETHICAL With my bow, I would never shot a deer in the neck


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  8. ruteger

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    Definitely unethical. I wouldn't even take it with a rifle. Theat person was probably taught to do that, but that's no excuse. Just because you take a long time making a mistake, doesn't mean you need to take just as long admitting you made one.

    We all have to keep in mind that in the end we're taking something's life and we're all of an age where we understand how precious that is.
     
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    Not to mention the antis are watching, if we look like we as a community are promoting shots such as this with a bow and arrow. You would be barraged with pics of some deer running around with an arrow through its throat. We don't need to feed them any more ammunition. They already have enough in their arsenal.


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    With that said, the very base of the neck is absolutely loaded with blood vessels and artery, it is a very lethal place to hit a deer. I have witnessed someone unintentionally hit a deer there, it stopped and bled out within 15 yards, it was truly dead(not dying) within 1 min.

    Not that I am advocating this shot, you have a smaller target with no real advantage over the standard behind the shoulder shot with a lot more to go wrong. The guy that takes this shot only because he wants to save himself a 100 yard walk(unless disabled or something) does not respect the animal very much imo. Or he is overconfident.


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    I would say unethical but I'm sure with greater ability and close range it would be a slamdunk.


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    Archery I would never.
    Gun I would certain shots I would. Never if the deer was broadside or up high on the neck like some people do. But this deer was quartering slightly almost straight on toward me took him at 20 yards with a 12g slug His vitals were destroyed. If you even consider that a neck shot. 332.jpg
    Reminds me though I was watching elk videos and came across I thought it was irresponsible to take that shot with a bow but It got the job done.
     
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    with a deer and a bow...never unless fully facing at full draw and very close. With a rifle or shotgun all day every day. Seen literally dozens of deer neck shot with a gun that dropped instantly. Those that didn't drop instantly were pretty easy to find.
     
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    Well Said


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    I would never shoot an animal in the neck with my bow, however on a shotgun hunt I shot a deer in the neck and it immediately went down. It was buck fever and my first deer harvest. I would never do it again. I enjoy hunting way to much to get in trouble or a ticket. I have also heard of hunters shooting deer in the face/ head anyone have opinions on this. [​IMG]


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    Great topic


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    Don't think I would ever take that shot. However the world record Beatty Buck was killed by a shot to the throat. And Mike is a very ethical and talented hunter. That was the only shot he was presented. I cant honestly say I would not have taken that particular shot!
     
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    Completely unethical on a deer with a bow. I would consider it on elk, like in the video above because the vital target is the size of a football vs. the size of a golf ball it. With a rifle, not sure as I have never done. I have head shot does, I find that ethical if the person shooting is a competent marksman. I can consistently shoot quarter-sized groups with a rifle at 200 yards, but even then I would only consider it on a completely relaxed animal.
     
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    Archery 100% not personally nor do I feel anyone is justified.

    Firearm 100% not personally, but feel there is an extremely small percentage of hunters that given the right situation (rest, calm deer...) can make the shot every time.
     
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    If a person has to ask if it's ethical to shoot a deer in the neck with a bow, they probably already know the answer. When's the last time you heard a person ask if shooting them in the vitals was ethical? JMHO. :tu:
     
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