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Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Vabowman, Dec 9, 2015.

  1. Vabowman

    Vabowman Grizzled Veteran

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    I have had this new Parker Ultralite 30 for about 3 weeks or so. When I first got it I had the wrong spine arrows and it would not tune to the way i like it. changed arrows and it tuned well. Over the past week I have been able to shoot Rage 2 blade, field point and Muzzy 3 blade all 100 gr in sync to about 25-30 yds. Just in the past 2 days I have developed some bad habits. Every shot seems to go right about 3 inches and maybe an inch low. No matter the head, fp, fixed blade, and practice rage. I am trying to be conscious of my grip and not torque. I also am trying to have a loose hand on my release. I am also trying to NOT punch the trigger. I must be doing one or all of these things. The fact that it is happening even with field points leads me to believe it's a form issue, but I could be wrong. However, in my early session yesterday the Muzzy and fp were dead nuts at 30 yds. Any help would be great.
     
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    kurveball18 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    If every shot seems go right about 3 inches I wonder if something got bumped or moved slightly? just a thought
     
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    ShaneB22 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    This. If everything is going to the same spot then your sight, rest or both could have been moved.
     
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    I also thought this, but when i finished shooting last night I put the bow away where nothing and no one could touch it. As always. Yesterday at the end of my session I was shooting right, then left, then center. Tonight it was pretty much right by the end. I did shoot center tonight in the beginning..maybe fatigue? from 10-15 yards it's dead center every time.
     
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    Once you get it tuned mark your rest and site. Take a pic too.
     
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    good idea
     
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    If it was at the end then it could very well be fatigue. When I start to get tired I stop because I heard that it could cause bad form if you continue to shoot while fatigued.
     
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    ShaneB22 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I mark my rest but I don't do anything to my sight. I have marked my peep on my string when it wasn't tied around the peep to keep it from moving.
     
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    I also was able to watch the arrow with the Muzzy 3 blade and to my eyes it looked like a perfect spin straight to the target. no fishtailing or corking. my bow is fairly slow probably in the mid 260's or 270. So how do you guys hold your release? where do you anchor your hand in relation to your face. This would be for a wrist release.
     
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    ShaneB22 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    My thumb knuckle sits right under my jaw and I have the string in the corner of my mouth and on the tip of my nose. But remember not to use to much pressure, don't be pressing the string into your face but use light contact making sure you have all of the nesecary points of contact to keep a consistent anchor.
     
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    this could be my issue...if I am putting pressure on the string by pulling it to my face that would send my arrow to the right correct? and it would be magnified at further distances..
     
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    Heard every step exept follow thru quit peeking and finish the shot.
     
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    yeh I bet I am also doing that peeking as well because I am expecting it to fly to the right so i try to see too soon.
     
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    It could be. I was on AT talking to nuts&bolts who is a great guy and I recommend you talk to him sometime because he knows everything, literally. I'm guessing that you were holding the string too tight to your face since you were shooting fine before.

    Here N&B talks about his kitchen sink tuning method which has never failed for anyone who has done it correctly. You should try it out whenever you get new strings or a new bow since it seems you're already tuned if you can get fixed heads and field points to hit together. http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1844443&highlight=tuning
     
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    Yeah I guess I forgot about that.
     
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    yeh I believe I am tuned from what I see. but unless I can get this form issue straight a tuned bow aint much good!!
     
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    I hear ya. I can get my bare shafts to hit the same spot as my fetched shafts but the bare shafts is the tiniest bit tail left. So Nuts&Bolts wants me to shoot from about 5 yards with a bare shaft and experiment until I can split a piece of dental floss with a perfect bare shaft.
     
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    If I were you I would step back to 40 or 50 yards where you can't clearly see where your arrows hit and then know that you have to wait till you get up to the target to see where you were hitting. That could help you discover if you are finishing correctly.
    Fatigue or incorrect pressure are all good assessments.
     
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    If you have a smart phone video yourself and watch it.

    What if your form was bad when you sighted it first time and now your form has changed for the better? Consistency is the most important thing in archery. Well, maybe second to awesome Hero shots. Consistency...yea. if you consistently hit right, could think about moving the sight and keep rolling.
     
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    well you would think after 25 years of shooting i would have figured it out by now, but every time I get a new bow i go through this. I guess it's just the pains of starting over. I spent the better part of 10 months learning to shoot a recurve and threw out everything from my compound shooting and started from scratch, now back to shooting a compound it's like I never shot one before. could have been bad form at first and now it has changed. But I usually start out decent but it quickly goes south after about 8 shots. close shots are fine but once I get out past 20 yds it's like a different bow/shooter. if I find that I keep shooting like this, moving the sight could be an option. just move it ever so slightly to the right. but that may throw everything off at close yardage. we'll see. I will shoot tomorrow and see what gives.
     

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